Why do I have to pay for 111 check to extend warranty
Why do I have to pay for 111 check to extend warranty
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Wilmslowboy

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4,761 posts

235 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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Wife's cayenne Diesel (Jan 12), Sub 20k miles, last serviced in June 2015, always under porsche warranty

Current warranty expires end of Jan - just been told that we cant renew unless we first pay £216 for 111 point check eek

...what's the purpose of the 111 check, if anything is broke then it's covered under the current warranty and if it has any non approved extras, then the new warranty doesn't cover it anyway ??

I was planning on selling it on, suddenly the decision to extend the warranty has become that much harder due to this extra £216 TAX

Anyone had any joy on getting the 111 check discounted (when not combined with a service) ??


Shall I just swallow the extra £1,000 (111 check and one year warranty) as it will be a lot easier to sell with the extra warranty cover on it ??


cay

380 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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Basically it's a rip-off as you have discovered.

If any non-standard parts are fitted they will have to be removed before this check will pass.

I could understand it if the car didn't have warranty as they would be checking to ensure there are no existing issues they would have to pay for.

I got it free with a service but had to pay another time.

sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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Wilmslowboy said:
Wife's cayenne Diesel (Jan 12), Sub 20k miles, last serviced in June 2015, always under porsche warranty

Current warranty expires end of Jan - just been told that we cant renew unless we first pay £216 for 111 point check eek

...what's the purpose of the 111 check, if anything is broke then it's covered under the current warranty and if it has any non approved extras, then the new warranty doesn't cover it anyway ??

I was planning on selling it on, suddenly the decision to extend the warranty has become that much harder due to this extra £216 TAX

Anyone had any joy on getting the 111 check discounted (when not combined with a service) ??


Shall I just swallow the extra £1,000 (111 check and one year warranty) as it will be a lot easier to sell with the extra warranty cover on it ??
The dealer's labour isn't free.

HTH

Bumble SV

248 posts

235 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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I've never paid for the 111 check as my OPC has always agreed to incorporate into the service

S1MMA

2,450 posts

248 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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I've never got the 111point check for free, just discounted if I have a service at the same time.

What OPCs have people got them done for free? I'd prefer to send my business to them if that's the case

sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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S1MMA said:
I've never got the 111point check for free, just discounted if I have a service at the same time.

What OPCs have people got them done for free? I'd prefer to send my business to them if that's the case
I'd also be interested to hear if any OPCs are giving out free services etc...

craigjm

21,381 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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Bumble SV said:
I've never paid for the 111 check as my OPC has always agreed to incorporate into the service
me neither but read the OP and it states that its not combined with a service

Wilmslowboy

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4,761 posts

235 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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I can understand why the 111 check might be discounted as part of the service - as the inspection part of the service has a lot of overlap with the 111 check.

Unfortunately in my case the service is not due (was last done 6 months ago)..

I can't believe the 111 check takes 2 hours ??

craigjm

21,381 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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Wilmslowboy said:
I can't believe the 111 check takes 2 hours ??
about a minute per item considering they have to document it? especially any issues

Wilmslowboy

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4,761 posts

235 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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craigjm said:
about a minute per item considering they have to document it? especially any issues
Ok - fair point ....

Callughan

6,313 posts

221 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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I would get the inspection waived but have spent $$$ at that opc.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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If the inspection throws up any warranty work that will be done free of charge I guess so some value to be had?

Nurburgsingh

5,537 posts

267 months

Friday 25th December 2015
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Bumble SV said:
I've never paid for the 111 check as my OPC has always agreed to incorporate into the service
This.... And it was the OPC that sounds like your username OP.

sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Friday 25th December 2015
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Nurburgsingh said:
Bumble SV said:
I've never paid for the 111 check as my OPC has always agreed to incorporate into the service
This.... And it was the OPC that sounds like your username OP.
Indeed - not uncommon when having a service at the same time.

But the OP isn't having a service (but is expecting a free 111-point check!)

gd

422 posts

217 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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Hmm... had the same problem at your local (I assume) OPC.

Have a drive down the road to Chester. They aren't perfect but a hell of a lot more accommodating and freindly than Wilmslow, and I've had the 111 point check both discounted in one case and free in another as the service was being done at the time.

Shop around, ring a few service managers, discuss what you need and when it needs doing, and see what they can do for you. Some will want to win your business for sure.

Wilmslowboy

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4,761 posts

235 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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sidicks said:
But the OP isn't having a service (but is expecting a free 111-point check!)
Perhaps I was a little clumsy with my title.....it's not so much the paying but the having to have one.

dreamcar

1,067 posts

140 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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If you buy two years extended warranty you only have to pay for the inspection once (i.e.you don't have to fork out for another inspection at the end of year 1). It also works out cheaper pro rata on the annual cover as well. As mentioned if you take out the extended warranty at the same time as a service many dealers won't charge the full whack for the checks or may not charge at all.

Koln-RS

4,121 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th December 2015
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Always thought the OPC Extended Warranty was a pretty good deal, and I also try to combine the 111 check with a service.

Never queried the need for the 111 check as I accept the Porsche and its underwriters want to keep the cars totally compliant, which hopefully keeps the premiums at a realistic level.

Extension to 15 years seems good news.

taylor172

833 posts

233 months

Sunday 3rd January 2016
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S1MMA said:
What OPCs have people got them done for free? I'd prefer to send my business to them if that's the case
It's not business if your not paying for it.

Please try and remember your local OPC is purely a facilitator for the warranty. Any premiums paid for the policy go directly to Germany. The 111 takes roughly 2 hours @ £180+ vat (already discounted rate as most centres will be running at £130+vat or more.
The Technician will need to ensure your vehicle meets the criteria set by Porsche. If it doesn't any they apply a warranty guess who's paying all the future warranty claims.. It certainly won't be Germany.
That you haven't got incorrect tyres or spurious electrical components fitted. The list goes on.

If you have a good relationship with your centre they may discount the check for you. As previously stated it is usually done FOC with a service anyway.
Don't forget as with any Main dealer you are paying for that fancy building, the coffee you drink, the biscuits you eat, that lovely new loan car you drive whilst the check is being done, the one that you don't have to insure yourself. The wash and vacuum your car gets, the free top up of screen wash or oil your car gets without you even noticing by the guy whos training cost thousands.The service advisors time in becoming FCA accredited. The development of future cars, the technology... Etc etc . The list goes on.

Edited by taylor172 on Sunday 3rd January 19:34

Mario149

7,789 posts

207 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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taylor172 said:
that lovely new loan car you drive whilst the check is being done, the one that you don't have to insure yourself.
I've had a couple of loaners from West London and I've always had to insure them myself and bring evidence to show them before I could drive away