Mark Webber on the GT4
Mark Webber on the GT4
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JLZ78

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246 posts

131 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Guess this is what happens if you own a GT3RS 4.0, a 918 and formally a GT2RS - as well as having driven in F1...

On the GT4;

“It’s a bit gutless. The steering’s mega and I think it’s another winner, but I’d like more power. I don’t like what I’m hearing about them changing hands for ridiculous sums, though.”

Top Gear chats to Mark Webber:
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/best-2015/top-gear...

xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Never driven one but the continuing theme I hear is overly long gearing.

v8ksn

4,713 posts

213 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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JLZ78 said:
Guess this is what happens if you own a GT3RS 4.0, a 918 and formally a GT2RS - as well as having driven in F1...

On the GT4;

“It’s a bit gutless. The steering’s mega and I think it’s another winner, but I’d like more power. I don’t like what I’m hearing about them changing hands for ridiculous sums, though.”

Top Gear chats to Mark Webber:
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/best-2015/top-gear...
It does not appeal to everyone.... it does not appeal to me biggrin

BubblesNW

1,711 posts

212 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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The Top Gear journo, however, says at the end of the article that Webber is wrong about the GT4 - at least that's how I read it. Seems like a very nice guy though despite all the smoke that's been blown up his arse for many years.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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JLZ78 said:
Guess this is what happens if you own a GT3RS 4.0, a 918 and formally a GT2RS - as well as having driven in F1...

On the GT4;

“It’s a bit gutless. The steering’s mega and I think it’s another winner, but I’d like more power. I don’t like what I’m hearing about them changing hands for ridiculous sums, though.”

Top Gear chats to Mark Webber:
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/best-2015/top-gear...
Webber never really had the ability in F1. Guess that's why he needs more power!!

g7jhp

7,033 posts

267 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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cc3 said:
Webber never really had the ability in F1. Guess that's why he needs more power!!
And Lewis and Nico are winning races because:

a) they have more skill, but less powerful cars
b) the fastest cars

Sam All

3,101 posts

130 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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If he owned one , would he say something different?


anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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g7jhp said:
cc3 said:
Webber never really had the ability in F1. Guess that's why he needs more power!!
And Lewis and Nico are winning races because:

a) they have more skill, but less powerful cars
b) the fastest cars
Well in F1 you firstly have to out qualify and beat your team mate, Webber didn't do that very often

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/12/insight-how-...

Edited by cc3 on Friday 1st January 18:00

ChrisW.

8,130 posts

284 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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But if anybody could, I would hazard a guess that Webber could make use of more power !

Thinking about it, 450 bhp would be nice ... but far too competitive against the GT3 !!

There is no point in his arguing against Porsche ...

franki68

11,628 posts

250 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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did he find the 997gt3 too slow for his liking ?

I think the column by Andretti in this months evo is more accurate .





Stunters

619 posts

223 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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Franchitti, franki! tongue out

Evolved

4,078 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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cc3 said:
Webber never really had the ability in F1. Guess that's why he needs more power!!
Odd thing to say! I bet he has more 'ability' than you or any of the GT4 owners on PH so his opinion is quite valid when discussing one of the hottest sports cars currently on the market.

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

260 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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cc3 said:
Webber never really had the ability in F1. Guess that's why he needs more power!!
Interesting observation. Presumably you Have a background in motorsport?


Edited by Steve Rance on Saturday 2nd January 09:47

Evolved

4,078 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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franki68 said:
I think the column by Andretti in this months evo is more accurate .
Is it a gushing review?

mhh

1,567 posts

271 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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Evolved said:
Is it a gushing review?
More of an aside than a review.


"Indeed, what encouraged me was the bond many of the highly sophisticated cars at eCoty were able to forge with the driver. Performance at the expense of involvement is high on the list of petrolhead concerns at the moment, but the McLaren, Civic and Cayman GT4 (in which I enjoyed one of the greatest drives of my life), to name but three, were proof that certain car makers know how to balance the two. It’s an impressive feat, and sadly one I personally don’t think Ferrari has pulled off with the 488.."

Dario Francitti also criticises the one piece buckets in the Lambo SV (fair enough) and the 675LT (everyone else - including me - loves them). So who is right? No one - you need to make up your own mind. But of course if Webber was saying good things about the GT4, we'd all be nodding furiously....

Trev450

6,742 posts

201 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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cc3 said:
Webber never really had the ability in F1. Guess that's why he needs more power!!
I would be interested to know on what basis you make that assessment.

Edited by Trev450 on Saturday 2nd January 11:13

Koln-RS

4,121 posts

241 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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Trev450 said:
I think you will find that the talent level needed to get into F1 in the first place is significantly higher than you are ever likely to come up against.
'Talent' or 'Money' gets you into F1. IMO MW was there on talent.

He is also 2015 World Endurance Champion - and, as a pretty straight talker, his views are normally very credible. Although, he's clearly touched a nerve with some sensitive GT4 owners by daring to criticise their new toys wink

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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I think if I'd have been driving the cars he has as standard, 385bhp would feel a bit gutless to me too.

Akajak

887 posts

268 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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perhaps he couldn't get one lol

hondansx

4,700 posts

254 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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He had a GT3 RS 4.0 and believe he has a 4.0. Nice for him to be honest, given he is Porsche's property these days. A proper Aussie!