Quick 993RS ring time spotted

[iguana]

Just spotted this-

www.esma.no/nordschleife.html


Pah pesky standard GT3 even with Röhrl at the wheel with its 7.56


Bung slicks on a 993RS & aye currumba! 7.42



-20,832 km 7,42 = 162 km/h Porsche 911 RS 3.8, slicks, Walther Röhrl.

20,832 km 7,43,4 = 161 km/h TechArt 996 GT2 Porsche 620 ps, Horst von Saurma, Sport Auto 2001.


-20,832 km 7,47 = 160 km/h 2001 Porsche 996 GT2, Walther Röhrl, 2000.


-20,832 km 7,49 = 159 km/h 996 GT3 Cup -99, 1207 kg, 360 hp, slicks, Sport Auto.

-20,832 km 7,56 = 157 km/h Porsche 996 GT3 360 ps, Walther Röhrl 2000

[johnny senna]

That's fast.

I wonder what the 993RS would do on say Michelin Cups or Dunlop SSRs?

[clubsport]

Does it matter?? I am sure Walter Rohl would be quicker than any of us if he was running snow tyres in August around the ring.

[GreigM]

Manthey racing recently clocked a Standard GT3 with street tyres at 7.49

Article here:
www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte/artikel.php?artikel_id=7274&artikel_seite=0


>> Edited by GreigM on Wednesday 16th February 11:12

[johnny senna]

clubsport said:

Does it matter?? I am sure Walter Rohl would be quicker than any of us if he was running snow tyres in August around the ring.

Don't be so miserable Paul!

Of course it doesn't matter....it's just a bit of fun.

[clubsport]

Johnny, I wasn't trying to be miserable...just putting the emphasis on the driving skill of WR rather than tyres when such times are posted on ring lap times.

[iguana]

clubsport said:

Johnny, I wasn't trying to be miserable...just putting the emphasis on the driving skill of WR rather than tyres when such times are posted on ring lap times.

Of course its completly irelevent & slicks are in a waaaay diferent league to road rubber & even good drivers havent even got a tenth of the skill of skill of WR, just interesting as that both the GT3 7.56 & the 7.42 993RS times were set by WR.

Nice to know those prehistoric old air cooled beetles can still scoot along is all



Johnny, ref slicks & track tyres I am told there is still a big diference, after a Bedford day I was chin wagging to that slow old GT3RS peddler Mr Rance

I had tried slicks on my cheap heap for the 1st time that day & was amazed at the cornering speed difs over road rubber & was interested to know what the Mich cup sports I had also just bought- but not used yet, would be like in comparion.

He said Mich cups over road rubber huge grip diference, but slicks were another big step forward beyond them.


Also got to remember there are loads of types of slicks & the ones WR had on the RS might have been more along the lines of a real sticky qualifying type & might have only lasted a lap.

[randeria]

johnny senna said:

That's fast. I wonder what the 993RS would do on say Michelin Cups or Dunlop SSRs?

Walter Röhrl was timed round the Ring in a 993RS on road tyres in 8.10. I guess Cups would take it down to 7.50 - 7.55 or so.

Note the web site says
20,832 km 7,42 = 162 km/h Porsche 911 RS 3.8, slicks, Walther Röhrl.

I must admit I always interpreted this as a 964 RS 3.8, ie one of the limited runs with a wide body and big wing. Could be a 993RS though.

Anyone here doing the Ring on 7-8 March with the RMA? I'll be there in the RS - can't wait!

[iguana]

randeria said:

[I must admit I always interpreted this as a 964 RS 3.8, ie one of the limited runs with a wide body and big wing.

Doh!, yip you are of course correct, it could indeed be.

Still only 300bhp tho, vs the 600+bhp German tuners modded 996s, so a darn respectable time.

[burzel]

I had tried slicks on my cheap heap for the 1st time that day & was amazed at the cornering speed difs over road rubber & was interested to know what the Mich cup sports I had also just bought- but not used yet, would be like in comparion.

He said Mich cups over road rubber huge grip diference, but slicks were another big step forward beyond them.

We carried out some dry testing ,back to back times at oulton,with new slicks and new mich cups,there was only 1 second differance around the full track.Granted the car was on the same set up for both types of tyres,temp across the tyres were good on both,so set up was not far out for the slicks.

[john purdie]

Was the ring the place where Jeremy Clarkson went round in that jaguar and tried to get round it in sub 10secs?? then the women absolutely wooooooped his arse!(Not hard I suppose though!).

[johnny senna]

john purdie said:

Was the ring the place where Jeremy Clarkson went round in that jaguar and tried to get round it in sub 10secs?? then the women absolutely wooooooped his arse!(Not hard I suppose though!).

That's the place.

[v15ben]

john purdie said:

Was the ring the place where Jeremy Clarkson went round in that jaguar and tried to get round it in sub 10secs?? then the women absolutely wooooooped his arse!(Not hard I suppose though!).

Damn that's one fast S-Type

[iguana]

10 secs! er no, twas 10 mins & thats only a bridge to gantry time & not a full lap either.

[Melv]

I'm not impressed......

August 2002, standard tyres, unmodified, two adults two children and dog.

19 minutes 57 seconds -Fiat Benimar motorhome....

Just watch yer mirrors......

Rgds
Mel

[big.bad.wolfie]

Mel,

With that time you must have overtaken Clarkson on one of his first laps?

Damian