How reliable are modern Porsches?
How reliable are modern Porsches?
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japseye007

Original Poster:

117 posts

128 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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I have never owned a Porsche before but have always thought about buying one if the funds permitted.

I'm just wondering how reliable modern Porsches are in particular 911's, 2007/8 or newer?

Are some 911 models more reliable than others?

They are sports cars so I'm sure many get driven in a spirited manner and how do they hold up as they get older to taking these hard miles?

Also what are the expected yearly maintenance costs for owners?



xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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I've heard a lot of issues with 911s and Boxsters, enough to put me off ever buying a used one, except in exceptional circumstances or if the "common" issues like IMS and bore scoring has been resolved. You can get some warranties from some companies.

RDMcG

20,835 posts

236 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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At this stage the IMS issue is well known and fixes are generally available. Beyond that in my experience they are about average. I have had a fair number of cars coincident with Porsche ownership and none was any better. Service history is critical and accident damage can be very expensive to fix. A minor but very irritating problem is buttons on bottom of the nav screen falling off. The Porsche fix is to replace the unit under warranty. Very expensive if beyond that. However a dab of Krazy glue will do it but don't lose the button.

japseye007

Original Poster:

117 posts

128 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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IMS issue? Common on all models?

How long does the warranty last on the 911s?

Edited by japseye007 on Monday 25th January 10:22

Trev450

6,742 posts

201 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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The IMS was a concern up until the Generation 2 models were introduced around 2009. After this time the IMS was done away with. Similarly, bore scoring is a very real issue until the Gen 2's. If you funds stretch to a 987.2, this is clearly the way to go. You can get a Porsche extended warranty up until 15 years old, but the car will need to pass a 111 point check with any faults and non-genuine parts repalced prior to the warranty being applied, as is a major service.

Edited by Trev450 on Monday 25th January 11:22

Moosh

1,122 posts

250 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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japseye007 said:
IMS issue? Common on all models?

How long does the warranty last on the 911s?

Edited by japseye007 on Monday 25th January 10:22
Turbo's, GT3 & GT2 do not suffer from IMS issues

GT4P

5,965 posts

214 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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As said you are best off looking for a gen2 car they have been around for 8 years now and are proving very reliable but like any car there has been the odd random failure but nothing to do with design. The engines have been used in the turbo since 2009 with upto 560hp with no problems and are being carried through to the latest cars! Porsche has that much confidence in these engines known as the 9A1 and now the 9A2 that they are the first of the none mezger design to be used in a GT. car ie the gt4 and in the track only gt4 club sport. With the pre 2008 engines known as m96/7 track days and racing was not backed by Porsche and no gt/turbo or track only cars were built with this engine by Porsche

cayman-black

13,263 posts

245 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Moosh said:
Turbo's, GT3 & GT2 do not suffer from IMS issues
Well i have read of a few on here that have so this i,m afraid is untrue.

Magic919

14,457 posts

230 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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If you stick with Gen 2 911s, from 2008 then they are reliable. One, rare, event saw my car on a flatbed, but that's about it.

You can keep renewing the extended warranty if you are concerned. Used to be up to year 9 for annual, but I heard they are changing this to 15 years/125k miles.

You can find basic servicing costs on the web, but Porsche like to charge extra for brake fluid change(150), plugs(480), air filters(100), PDK clutch oil, front diff oil, aircon servicing(200) and airbag checks. How much of this you take part in is up to you.

About £1500 a year is probably about right (inc tyres), with an extra grand if you do the warranty.

Things will fail, like sensors, coilpacks, water pumps, rear lights and window regulators and whether you pay these will depend on whether you have warranty.

I've found it increasingly difficult to get them to sort the car under extended warranty unless the component has pretty well failed.

996TT02

3,342 posts

169 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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In all honesty about as reliable as a Renault or Fiat of the same age.

Things go wrong, some stuff is expensive to fix, other stuff is very expensive to fix.

FeelingLucky

1,183 posts

193 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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I bought a TurboS from the original supplying OPC when just three years old, and in that time it had only ever had service items.

It passed it's 111 point check with just a little geo, and I took possession.

Two years on, and apart from a battery, it sailed through two MOTs without advisories, service and 111 point check to renew warranty without issue. So in my experience, modern Porsches are dramatically reliable.

Prior, I had a Gen1 Turbo that never missed a beat whilst in my possession.