997.2 C4S - not feeling the love for it..
997.2 C4S - not feeling the love for it..
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Recently purchased a used 997.2 C4S from an opc and after the initial wow, fab, etc I'm really not feeling the love for it.

Any thoughts suggestions as to what to do? Some days I enjoy it and other days I just hate it.

PGNCerbera

3,046 posts

195 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Hmmm. What do you hate about it?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Where to start, the drivers door has refused to open on two occasions, numerous rattles, squeaks and creaks around the interior - dash clocks, behind the glovebox, passenger seat, something from the rear, windows keep misting up and the blower can't clear it, etc. You would have thought after 50 years of refinement these wouldn't be an issue. The headlights, well my bog std a4 with xenons that is 5 years older are way way better.

On the pluses, the flat six when rev'd with pse is quite enjoyable but not a fan of the light steering or the bouncy suspension.

The opc are hopefully collecting the car next week to sort out the rattles, etc but I am sorely tempted to leave it with them for good...

Wilmslowboy

4,761 posts

235 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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if you don't get on you don't get on .......sometimes owners and cars just don't click - what did you have before ??


Apologises to ambulance chase..
A good friend is keen to buy a gen 2 997 PDK, drop me a not with details if you want to get out of it quickly and without to much of a financial spanking.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Other car is an S4.

The C4S is a manual not pdk.

Last couple of mornings the rattles in the dash just drive me nuts to point of thumping something just to shut the f'ing thing up. Based experience so far they should take some lessons from the koreans on build quality..

WindyM

443 posts

169 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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The fact that you bought it from an OPC should mean it has good provenance but it does sound as though yours has been dismantled in the past and not put back together again properly! I have a 997.2 Targa 4S and the only thing that rattles is the roof mechanism as you'd expect - everything else is solid.

Light steering? Do you brim the fuel tank? Mine only feels light at the front when it's running on fumes. Have you got Michelin PS2s fitted? Would be worth OPC double-checking the wheel alignment.

Not really noticed the headlights lacking either...

I am with you on the misting up though! Especially in this particularly wet weather. Advice seems to be to get large bags of silica gel and leave them in over night and dry off on a radiator overnight. Get OPC to check the a/c condenser drain holes are clear?


YoungMD

326 posts

149 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Ermm sounds to me like you are new to 911's?

I have had a good few and love them, but you have to love them really, judged inch for inch against many other cars they dont score top.

Take the light steering, pretty much what 911 drivers expect ...but many may argue a more balanced weighting is better. When i got my current 911, my referance to goood was how similar to previous 911's it was ......

mollytherocker

14,458 posts

238 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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I'd say you're just not a 911 type of guy.

Sell it and move on.

bigkeeko

1,370 posts

172 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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gottans said:
not a fan of the light steering or the bouncy suspension.
Completely opposite of my C4S. confused


Even I'm disappointed that your car has issues. On the not feeling love thing, these things happen with certain cars and you can't love `em all. I bought a Saleen expecting to love it and after a week I realised it done nothing for me. A Monaro test drive left me disappointed and an Audi S4 had me bored to tears within 5 miles and yet I loved my old Mondeo ST220? I can`t work it out either.

Baz99

179 posts

144 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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What year, mileage. I have had two C4S' both tight, precise, no bouncing, no rattles, superb cars. Something wrong here

RichB

56,208 posts

313 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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My experience after 4 or 5 Porsches is that the build quality is very good. I agree on the condensation on the windscreen though it does occur a lot in winter months. Headlamps fine, I really hate this current trend for manufacturers to fit lamps that burn the retinas of oncoming drivers. Dipped beam headlamps have got out of hand.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

185 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Car will be under warranty so east to get faults fixed

Magic919

14,457 posts

230 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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My experience of the Gen 2 cars doesn't match that, but I've not driven the OPs car. One of mine has a more noisy interior, but never enough to bother me much.

Talk of warranty is all well and good, but it's a lot harder to get these sort of things fixed these days. They are still great where there's a complete failure of a component, but rubbish at sorting bits that are on their way out.

If it's not the car for you, sell it and move on. Test drive another Gen 2 997 if you feel it's just one bad example.

TheBMWDriver

594 posts

183 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Sounds like you should get a 991, its a big step up in quality from the 997.2

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Car is fitted with p-zeros tyres, curious why the comment about Michelins though.

I am really hoping the OPC can sort the rattles out but as some seem to be temperature related I am not holding out much hope.

There is a 997.2 C4S at Cameron Sports cars that was sold a little while back and has re-appeared after a very short ownership, wondering what the story is?


Magic919

14,457 posts

230 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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I changed mine to Michelin PS2s. I think they suit the car quite well.

No idea about the Cameron car. Not sure what relevance it has.

av185

20,464 posts

156 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Wilmslowboy said:
A good friend is keen to buy a gen 2 997 PDK, drop me a not with details if you want to get out of it quickly and without to much of a financial spanking.
Wonder if your 'good friend' would understand why you would possibly want to sell him a 'dog' of a 911 with numerous declared problems........confused

Fish

4,063 posts

311 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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gottans said:
Car is fitted with p-zeros tyres, curious why the comment about Michelins though.

I am really hoping the OPC can sort the rattles out but as some seem to be temperature related I am not holding out much hope.

There is a 997.2 C4S at Cameron Sports cars that was sold a little while back and has re-appeared after a very short ownership, wondering what the story is?
Think the Meteour Grey one is my old car. Was nothing wrong with it when I had it...

Heaveho

7,401 posts

203 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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My experience of a 997 C4S simply made me appreciate how much better the steering feels in a Boxster . As said, sounds like it's not for you, at least you tried!

Bernardino

72 posts

138 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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I think you could be unlucky and I feel your pain. my previous car was gen 2 C4s cab which had numerous rattles which I could never get rid of. I finally had enough after taking the car back to OPC for the third time when the roof failed to open.

I part exchanged it at the OPC for a 997.2 4 GTS and I couldn't be happier, the car feels very tight with no rattles etc.