911 turbo 3.6 please help.

[simonharrod911]

I have a november 1993 turbo 3.6 which an OPC has just told me is a Special Edition.

I disagreed saying the only special editions of the 3.6 were the stripped out racer with rollcage (IMSA) or the ultra rare 3.6 S with 968 headlights.

They were adamant that the first 3.6 turbo IIs were simply badged as 'turbo', didn't have 18" speedlines, and didn't have leather as standard. My car (silver badged turbo 3.6, leather, 18" speedlines) is actually the 911 turbo 3.6 Special Edition.

I have not seen this documented anywhere, I thought all the 3.6s were badged as such, and I've read a lot about these cars.

Can anyone out there shed any light on the subject?

[Marquis_Rex]

Perhaps they were just trying to find an excuse to ramp up the price of parts/servicing?

[ultra violent]

Leather was standard on the 3.3 so I doubt there was a 3.6 that didn't have it as standard....

There was a 3.6 S2, which i believe only existed in the states and was made in exceptionally small numbers...

[simonharrod911]

Marquis_Rex said:

Perhaps they were just trying to find an excuse to ramp up the price of parts/servicing?

It crossed my mind, but the guy I spoke to was VERY knowledgable. I can't find his claim documented anywhere though.

[mustard]

This sounds interesting If its UK supplied mail me the VIN and i'll try and get the full spec. for you

[simonharrod911]

mustard said:

This sounds interesting If its UK supplied mail me the VIN and i'll try and get the full spec. for you

Many thanks Mustard, will do tomorrow.

[simonharrod911]

ultra violent said:

Leather was standard on the 3.3 so I doubt there was a 3.6 that didn't have it as standard.... There was a 3.6 S2, which i believe only existed in the states and was made in exceptionally small numbers...

That's exactly what I thought(leather)!!!!!

I wondered about the S2, but as you point out there weren't any ROW cars built.

[uktrucks]

Simon apparently your VIN should hold they key to whether or not it is a "special edition" or not ? Allegedly there were a few around with c20 BHP more than std thru better cyl heads, larger valves etc.

If you cant get your OPC on the VIN case we may be able to trace it or failing that run it on our dyno that should see if more ponies are present.

Regards

Allan

[ultra violent]

... that was the X88 option which is basically the 'S' in Turbo S (well as far as the mechanicals are concerned...) It was a £10000 option, i believe.

[SimonHarrod911]

Thanks for all your help.

The chassis number is 96PS470551.

Any extra information would be great.

[nel]

I had a look in my bible, Paul Frere's history of pork, but it did not talk about any special editions of the 3.6 turbos. The change to 18" wheels from the 17" on the 3.3 was standard. Also, he only listed one engine spec. for the 3.6 turbo.

If there was a "special edition" it must have been a very limited run and a well kept secret.

[mustard]

SimonHarrod911 said:

Thanks for all your help. The chassis number is 96PS470551. Any extra information would be great.

Be back shortly

[mustard]

Back....

93 911 Turbo Coupe N7N7 Amazon Green / TH Classic Grey Leather
383/387 Sport seats with elec height adjustment, Electric Width Adjust on Drivers
567 Top Tint Windscreen
650 Sunroof
1001.1 Piping To front seats
1009 Carpets

BUT it does say in 'Customer field' 'CONVERTED VEHICLE'

Supplied by Merlin Cambria,looks like it was a Demo originally (or intended to be one)

there you go, no real help





>> Edited by mustard on Tuesday 22 February 10:35

[rubystone]

That's a great help - call Merlin (if they still exist) and they will tell you what "converted" means. The car doesn't sound like anything more than a "special wishes" type of car. Dealers often specced up their demo cars in this way - doesn't make them a limited edition though.

Be sure to let us know what's happened

[SimonHarrod911]

nel said:

I had a look in my bible, Paul Frere's history of pork, but it did not talk about any special editions of the 3.6 turbos. The change to 18" wheels from the 17" on the 3.3 was standard. Also, he only listed one engine spec. for the 3.6 turbo. If there was a "special edition" it must have been a very limited run and a well kept secret.

Well kept secret indeed. I can't find any reference to a Special Edition car, even in the sublime 964 Companion.

[craigw]

i think merlin if its merlin in cardiff have gone, dick lovett must be handling their customers & may have database access, if u call them in cardiff & ask to speak to tina, tel her craig williams with the maser said to call, she may be able to help.

[SimonHarrod911]

mustard said:

Back.... 93 911 Turbo Coupe N7N7 Amazon Green / TH Classic Grey Leather 383/387 Sport seats with elec height adjustment, Electric Width Adjust on Drivers 567 Top Tint Windscreen 650 Sunroof 1001.1 Piping To front seats 1009 Carpets BUT it does say in 'Customer field' 'CONVERTED VEHICLE' Supplied by Merlin Cambria,looks like it was a Demo originally (or intended to be one) there you go, no real help >> Edited by mustard on Tuesday 22 February 10:35

Thanks very much for that Mustard. Converted Vehicle? Perhaps it was originally a left hooker...

[leosayer]

mustard said:

1009 Carpets

[SimonHarrod911]

The X88 option is not printed in the service book. However my local specialist has bought it :

New heat exchangers
New wastegate
New crossover pipes
New lots more expensive stuff

all for a 1993 3.6 turbo.....

.....and nothing fits

[domster]

SimonHarrod911 said:

The X88 option is not printed in the service book. However my local specialist has bought it : New heat exchangers New wastegate New crossover pipes New lots more expensive stuff all for a 1993 3.6 turbo..... .....and nothing fits

Weird. It's not the ultra rare 3.6 Turbo with a 3.6 leyland DAF four pot turbo diesel in is it?

Surprised that nothing will fit or be a direct replacement...