vehicle security
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After recently being a victim of theft of drills (only cheap ones that was left in van) from my Transit on my drive I have decided to up my vehicle security. The van wasn't broken into but had been frequency jammed by someone with a gizmo that can be bought quite easily on auction site.A friend from the police was telling me that usually it's high end stuff that they're after and once inside by jamming or recording the vehicle remote frequency, then another gizmo is plugged into the diagnostic socket to access the vehicle electronic information allowing to program some other key. This was an article in the daily mail this week too.SCARY !! So I have now bought a proper Disklok which I'm told is the best form of steering lock out there. Do many of you out there use anything such as this or am I the only one being paranoid? It does feel a bit strange pulling up in the 911 and reaching for an ugly steel disk but needs must ! I do feel a lot more comfortable leaving it in a shopping car park now.
Edited by monty999 on Friday 26th February 22:04
mollytherocker said:
I use a disklok, but its not enough. You need 3 lines of defence in my view. Including the garage.
Mine lives in the garage at home but it't when out and about that I'm concerned about especially on a big car park where I'm told the thieves wait in cars and use these 'jammers' to block the remote locking signal to your car locks and alarm, you walk away and they step in so I'm reliably informed. The cops are now saying that 'old school' car security is making a come back. 
I presume Daily Mail readers think the risk is high. In general, car thefts are not on the increase, quite the opposite.
I've never heard of a Porsche being stolen without keys. I've seen plenty of Porsches that get crashed, some that lunch engines, but hardly ever hear of one being stolen.
I've never heard of a Porsche being stolen without keys. I've seen plenty of Porsches that get crashed, some that lunch engines, but hardly ever hear of one being stolen.
Magic919 said:
I presume Daily Mail readers think the risk is high. In general, car thefts are not on the increase, quite the opposite.
I've never heard of a Porsche being stolen without keys. I've seen plenty of Porsches that get crashed, some that lunch engines, but hardly ever hear of one being stolen.
Yes, you're quite correct that vehicle crime has fallen rapidly over the years. However, 70,000 a year is still a large amount of thefts and classics and prestige car thefts is currently increasing. With or without keys, just don't want some scumbag making mine another adding to the total.I've never heard of a Porsche being stolen without keys. I've seen plenty of Porsches that get crashed, some that lunch engines, but hardly ever hear of one being stolen.
Still would like to know what makes '996's onwards' less likely to be knicked, perhaps some form of built-in security I don't know I've got.
mollytherocker said:
I use a disklok, but its not enough. You need 3 lines of defence in my view. Including the garage.
+1 on the Disklok,once again it depends on how much you wish to spend.Garage, Tracker, Police wheel clamp not a cheap type.
Most people want a easy target, better to have something than nothing at all.
I find it best not to leave anything tasty parked up anywhere outside for too long......buy a shed/snotter for the shopping trips/cinema or take a taxi if out for dinner.....compensate by having a drink too. 
Porsche don t appear to be problematic re security although most people are aware expensive standard vts trackers are easily bypassed and essentially useless.
I would be far more worried at the increasing number of X5s, M, cars, Grange Rovers and RS 'Aldis' being taken with ease....a worrying trend, especially for the owners.
Porsche don t appear to be problematic re security although most people are aware expensive standard vts trackers are easily bypassed and essentially useless.
I would be far more worried at the increasing number of X5s, M, cars, Grange Rovers and RS 'Aldis' being taken with ease....a worrying trend, especially for the owners.
The problem is that most modern cars have opted for smart keys and electronic steering locks. Previously the thief had to bypass the steering lock AND program a key or bypass the immobilizer. Now all they need to do is simply bypass the immobilizer function to take the car and there are devices out there mainly from eastern block countries to do this. (They are priced as such as well as anyone bona-fide would not be able to justify the price.) Often bypassed with a simple dongle plugged into the OBD port of your car. This can apply to most cars with smart keys. Cars with bladed transponder keys are also subject to theft but the smart key versions are quicker for the thief which is what they want. That is why I posted the link to the OBD blocker above.
If they want your car they are going to come into the house to get your keys nowadays.
1. Don't leave keys on show by the front door - preferably leave them in the same room as the dog overnight.
2. Have CCTV on the front door and the drive.
3. Fit telescopic bollards on the drive and use them.
4. Put a wheel clamp and a steering lock as you describe on the van.
1. Don't leave keys on show by the front door - preferably leave them in the same room as the dog overnight.
2. Have CCTV on the front door and the drive.
3. Fit telescopic bollards on the drive and use them.
4. Put a wheel clamp and a steering lock as you describe on the van.
After having 2 vans nicked in 1 year, I've up my game.
Disc lock, dead locks all round, and tracker, basically a pay as you go mobile phone, which I keep topped up. I can text my van to stop it, and cuts alternator. text it and my phone opens google maps to where it is, and a fraction of the tracker companies. Plus the standard alarm. It's a war, and the insurance aren't on our side
Disc lock, dead locks all round, and tracker, basically a pay as you go mobile phone, which I keep topped up. I can text my van to stop it, and cuts alternator. text it and my phone opens google maps to where it is, and a fraction of the tracker companies. Plus the standard alarm. It's a war, and the insurance aren't on our side
rallyeman said:
and tracker, basically a pay as you go mobile phone, which I keep topped up. I can text my van to stop it, and cuts alternator. text it and my phone opens google maps to where it is, and a fraction of the tracker companies. Plus the standard alarm. It's a war, and the insurance aren't on our side
you can bypass that for a £50 blocker !As every one else has said, for high priced cars, robbers hold a knife to your head and ask for the keys.
I know friends who have had people just walk into house in the day with a knife and ask for the keys, same in car parks etc etc.
only noddy cars get robbed by kids, hi end cars are stolen to order by pro's who want the keys and will hold you at gun point for them.
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