Lhd GT3 with mods

[fastgerman]

Hi All,

Looks like this is being off loaded:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

German car, which has been in Japan and likely used for some track/drifting work.

What's it worth de-chav'd and what would that cost?

Thanks!

[Big Al.]

Ah, those type of mods....

[fastgerman]

From a bit of googling it seems a mk1 gt3 rear bumper is the same as a carrera?

Genuine spoilers are friggin expensive as are front bumpers.

Ride height seems lower and interior gutted.

Lhd car in good condition is what this seems to be priced at, so not competitive imo

[SignalGruen]

I have a LHD Jap import that is not chavved up that will be up for sale very shortly.

[fastgerman]

If anyone is interested, I think I'm going to chicken out.

It's on ebay, less than 1 hour to go.

It's a German car, which has been in Japan for a couple of years.

Expensive coilovers with remote reservoir - GMG I think.

I guess the problem is at £30k, any one of the following takes it to over £40k in expense:

engine
gearbox
body work i.e. has it been crashed

However, it you want a track GT3, this is a good price :-)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Porsche-996-GT3-30k...

Edited by fastgerman on Thursday 12th May 11:17

[fastgerman]

£28,200, reserve not met

[fredt]

What's cutting holes in bumper meant to achieve?

[Harris_I]

fastgerman said:

Lhd car in good condition is what this seems to be priced at, so not competitive imo

How do you know it's not in good condition?

[fastgerman]

Harris_I said:

fastgerman said:

Lhd car in good condition is what this seems to be priced at, so not competitive imo

How do you know it's not in good condition?

huh?

Edit - ah I see, I don't know the condition mechanically, however it clearly needs cosmetics i.e. spoiler, bumpers and paint to be in 'good factory looking condition'

Edited by fastgerman on Thursday 12th May 15:02

[Cheburator mk2]

fastgerman said:

From a bit of googling it seems a mk1 gt3 rear bumper is the same as a carrera?

Genuine spoilers are friggin expensive as are front bumpers.

Ride height seems lower and interior gutted.

Lhd car in good condition is what this seems to be priced at, so not competitive imo

No LHD cars in good condition is priced at £45k. They were at £45k when I was looking for one 2 years ago. Hate to break it to you, but good Mk1 Club Sports are more expensive in Germany/Switzerland than here. A lot more expensive!

On the whole you will be better off buying a Swiss car, swallowing the VAT/Duty rather than buying this one. To put this one right, unless you are doing it, will cost a fortune, and certainly push it over the £60k mark a good LHD car seems to retail at here. Last, but not least - it is a comfort...

[NAS90]

I think there is a lack of imagination with people looking at this car, I was talking to them about it and have driven it, other than the current seat, which was designed for someone considerably slimmer than me and is bloody painful to squeeze my delicate frame into; this GT3 is a great drive, engine, gearbox, etc. are all how they should be, alignment needs some attention as it is too track focused and pointy for the road. Unfortunately we found a new house we liked so the £50K spare for another toy is going into a house temporarily and the 997 GT2 is going to auction next month.

My plan for it was to buy it at around 35-40K (which I presume is about what it'll comel for) and buy a LHD 1999 996 that has sports seats and GT3 body kit on it, found one that would have cost around £15,000 delivered to UK from Germany. Plan was to swop carpets, seats, bumpers, spoiler, etc over (GBP 2-3,000 in labour and paintwork). Sell the 996 with the track bits on to Porsche Club racer, track day enthusiast type of person for £12-15,000

Net result for your efforts is that you have a low mileage GT3 Comfort that stands you at around £45K and that is a cheap GT3 by todays prices in anyone's world

Edited by NAS90 on Friday 13th May 06:26

[Harris_I]

Good post.

Providing it's mechanically sound, it looks like a corker to me. A shame so many look down their noses at big wings and the like. So what? Probably more fit for purpose than the 1000 mile a year garage queens everyone seems to covet so desperately.

[fastgerman]

Agreed on the route to getting the car back to standard i.e. sourcing an aerokit 996 or buying parts from a stacked car via online auctions/breakers.

However, no documentation.

This means the car could have been written off, no evidence of mileage, basically 'we just don't know'.

[NAS90]

fastgerman said:

Agreed on the route to getting the car back to standard i.e. sourcing an aerokit 996 or buying parts from a stacked car via online auctions/breakers.

However, no documentation.

This means the car could have been written off, no evidence of mileage, basically 'we just don't know'.

Unless you are personally an expert on these cars, anybody buying privately or from a non Porsche specialist, will have it checked by a Porsche specialist before they part with their money and an inspection by any specialist will answer those questions for you quite quickly.

The mileage is stored in the ECU, if you are really cautious a leak down and compression test on the engine, etc. along with an examination of the body, suspension, etc. will give you a good idea what state the car is in.

A service history actually tells you very little about the condition of the car, I agree it is desirable to have, but I would always buy a car on the basis of its condition right now, not what paperwork the seller can produce. This car has obviously been tracked frequently, so has probably been driven quite hard and maintained equally frequently; people who track their cars tend to be far more attentive to making sure their cars are 100% perfect before they drive them at 150mph.....self preservation instinct I suppose.

Clearly this car is not for everyone, but someone with a little imagination will pick up a bargain. If it hangs around long enough for me to sell the old house after I buy the new one, that someone will be me, but I am sure someone will see sense long before I'm ready to buy again.