Finding a wet line - For the track day drivers amongst you
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For the chaps who like to track thier cars, you may find this interesting.
Very wet day yesterday at Silverstone. This is some in car from the first ride of the day. We fitted some wets and softened the bars as the circuit conditions were difficult. I thought id post this as it gives an insite into developing lines to find grip in difficult conditions. The first lap was about lap 3 or 4 of the day. Each lap was slightly adjusted as I sinffed out where the grip was. You can see more adjustments on the second lap.
In wet and difficult conditions the line that gives the most grip is often off of the dry line where rubber laid down becomes slippery. On some corners, I found that the classic wet line was not the fastest.
Never be cautious to use experimental lines in the wet. Also, keep experimenting as the ideal will often change as the conditions improve or worsten
https://youtu.be/GhzBYY-Ctbw
Very wet day yesterday at Silverstone. This is some in car from the first ride of the day. We fitted some wets and softened the bars as the circuit conditions were difficult. I thought id post this as it gives an insite into developing lines to find grip in difficult conditions. The first lap was about lap 3 or 4 of the day. Each lap was slightly adjusted as I sinffed out where the grip was. You can see more adjustments on the second lap.
In wet and difficult conditions the line that gives the most grip is often off of the dry line where rubber laid down becomes slippery. On some corners, I found that the classic wet line was not the fastest.
Never be cautious to use experimental lines in the wet. Also, keep experimenting as the ideal will often change as the conditions improve or worsten
https://youtu.be/GhzBYY-Ctbw
Thanks for that.
Can I suggest this is reposted in the trackday thread? I'm sure it will be usefull to non Porsche drivers.
Edit: I should add that I was at Bedford Autodrome yesterday, and it was difficult to even find the tarmac under the lakes and rivers that covered some parts of the track.
Can I suggest this is reposted in the trackday thread? I'm sure it will be usefull to non Porsche drivers.
Edit: I should add that I was at Bedford Autodrome yesterday, and it was difficult to even find the tarmac under the lakes and rivers that covered some parts of the track.
Edited by SpudLink on Tuesday 21st June 15:38
That's impressive and very useful - thanks. I was also there yesterday and tried a few laps in the morning before it cleared. Made no real progress at all and took myself off the track before I got spat off. My standard road tyres were of no use at all in that amount of water. What suspension adjustments did you make?
SpudLink said:
Thanks for that.
Can I suggest this is reposted in the trackday thread? I'm sure it will be usefull to non Porsche drivers.
Edit: I should add that I was at Bedford Autodrome yesterday, and it was difficult to even find the tarmac under the lakes and rivers that covered some parts of the track.
If you think that it will help, I'm happy to. Can I suggest this is reposted in the trackday thread? I'm sure it will be usefull to non Porsche drivers.
Edit: I should add that I was at Bedford Autodrome yesterday, and it was difficult to even find the tarmac under the lakes and rivers that covered some parts of the track.
Edited by SpudLink on Tuesday 21st June 15:38
thecook101 said:
That's impressive and very useful - thanks. I was also there yesterday and tried a few laps in the morning before it cleared. Made no real progress at all and took myself off the track before I got spat off. My standard road tyres were of no use at all in that amount of water. What suspension adjustments did you make?
Just set the roll bars to full soft front and rear. The wets make a big difference. Short shifting when the car is loaded is also a big helpLearnt a lot about the wet line racing karts. It' takes a while to adjust your thinking. Just being on that part of the race track feels so wrong at first.
When you get it right the feeling when you dive deep into the corner, hook up and accelerate away whilst the other drivers scramble for grip on the apex is priceless.
When you get it right the feeling when you dive deep into the corner, hook up and accelerate away whilst the other drivers scramble for grip on the apex is priceless.
Any more info and pics?red997 said:
nice work Steve;
I remember driving Silverstone GP on a wet day in a 997Cup - full wets;
and taking the wrong (dry) line at the end of Hanger into Stowe !
learnt a lot about me and the car that day...
In the wet, I found that my driving developed at about 500% quicker than in the dry
Ha! I hope that there wasnt any damage?!I remember driving Silverstone GP on a wet day in a 997Cup - full wets;
and taking the wrong (dry) line at the end of Hanger into Stowe !
learnt a lot about me and the car that day...
In the wet, I found that my driving developed at about 500% quicker than in the dry
It's a tough way to learn but very effective
Steve Rance said:
SpudLink said:
Thanks for that.
Can I suggest this is reposted in the trackday thread? I'm sure it will be usefull to non Porsche drivers.
Edit: I should add that I was at Bedford Autodrome yesterday, and it was difficult to even find the tarmac under the lakes and rivers that covered some parts of the track.
If you think that it will help, I'm happy to. Can I suggest this is reposted in the trackday thread? I'm sure it will be usefull to non Porsche drivers.
Edit: I should add that I was at Bedford Autodrome yesterday, and it was difficult to even find the tarmac under the lakes and rivers that covered some parts of the track.
Edited by SpudLink on Tuesday 21st June 15:38
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