Thoughts on the Cayenne
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Would like some of your thoughts on buying a used Cayenne...
Have been dreaming of a 911 (and of course will continue to)...however read a few reviews of Cayenne and realised that perhaps I can enjoy the Porsche style driving experience while having a lot more flexibility - I like driving, I surf, I cycle, I have a dog, I'm a football coach (my boot is always full of stuff), I like travelling - perhaps a second hand but fast Cayenne might work well and be a lot more flexible.
Would appreciate some advice from those who know a lot more than me - even in terms of what years or models to go for.
And yes I already know that nothing would be like a 911 - that's not even in question.
Oh and I'll add that I currently own a lovely blue 2011 BMW 320d Touring Sport Plus which is in great condition with low miles and which I love.
However it really is time for a change and I have wanted a Porsche for a very long time.
I have already received some great advice from you guys on here about 911s and just think this is worth considering / exploring first...
Have been dreaming of a 911 (and of course will continue to)...however read a few reviews of Cayenne and realised that perhaps I can enjoy the Porsche style driving experience while having a lot more flexibility - I like driving, I surf, I cycle, I have a dog, I'm a football coach (my boot is always full of stuff), I like travelling - perhaps a second hand but fast Cayenne might work well and be a lot more flexible.
Would appreciate some advice from those who know a lot more than me - even in terms of what years or models to go for.
And yes I already know that nothing would be like a 911 - that's not even in question.
Oh and I'll add that I currently own a lovely blue 2011 BMW 320d Touring Sport Plus which is in great condition with low miles and which I love.
However it really is time for a change and I have wanted a Porsche for a very long time.
I have already received some great advice from you guys on here about 911s and just think this is worth considering / exploring first...
Edited by Dr Ing on Monday 10th July 17:06
Replaced our 2000 Jeep which we'd had for 6 years. A 2005 model Cayenne V8 s, very high spec & a rareish colour (Dark Olive metallic, Including panoramic roof. Has had the two major jobs done, the coolant pipes & the carden or propshaft. Had it since end of Feb. Done around 3k. Replaced tyres with Vredestein Vortis & had the geometry aligned as it was miles out.
Will be going to our local OPC tomorrow for a check over, oil & filter change & new tail gate struts. TIPEC member so will get club discount on it.
Only thing I am not keen on is the ride which can be fidgety on certain services. Mine is on 19".
Will be going to our local OPC tomorrow for a check over, oil & filter change & new tail gate struts. TIPEC member so will get club discount on it.
Only thing I am not keen on is the ride which can be fidgety on certain services. Mine is on 19".
We've had ours new since December and love it, didn't consider anything else except an X5, but only because we had had loads of BM's.
We have the 3.0d which is a little underpowered but they are times you are well over the legal motorway limit without noticing. Handling is brilliant.
Wouldn't change it for anything.
We have the 3.0d which is a little underpowered but they are times you are well over the legal motorway limit without noticing. Handling is brilliant.
Wouldn't change it for anything.
Another vote for keeping the 320 and saving up for the 911.
I've had a 2013 Cayenne diesel for 3 years and it's been an excellent family car but even with the selectable sport suspension and low profile 21" tyres I'm never really tempted to give it the beans. Sure, it has the 'Porsche' label, which in itself is enough for some, but it wears off after a while.
I've had a 2013 Cayenne diesel for 3 years and it's been an excellent family car but even with the selectable sport suspension and low profile 21" tyres I'm never really tempted to give it the beans. Sure, it has the 'Porsche' label, which in itself is enough for some, but it wears off after a while.
The Cayenne will divide opinions, as many people will never forgive Porsche for moving away from being a dedicated sports car manufacturers. And the truth is, no Cayenne is a sports car. It's, at best, a class leading SUV.
It really grew in popularity with the 2010> second generation model, and the third generation model is due to be launched fairly soon (2018).
Personally, I prefer the Macan, But, if you need more space, the Cayenne is a pretty accomplished package.
It really grew in popularity with the 2010> second generation model, and the third generation model is due to be launched fairly soon (2018).
Personally, I prefer the Macan, But, if you need more space, the Cayenne is a pretty accomplished package.
Buy a Series 1 turbo or 4.5S with air suspension.
Any decent ones will have had most of the niggly jobs done by now, cardan shaft, water pipes etc.
Quite stunning cars with huge ability.
The pool of decent ones is quickly getting smaller.
Very different economics to running a 320d though !
Expect 22/24 mpg if you're very careful on the motorway. 17/18mpg in general running about and an empty tank very quickly if you toe it !
Any decent ones will have had most of the niggly jobs done by now, cardan shaft, water pipes etc.
Quite stunning cars with huge ability.
The pool of decent ones is quickly getting smaller.
Very different economics to running a 320d though !
Expect 22/24 mpg if you're very careful on the motorway. 17/18mpg in general running about and an empty tank very quickly if you toe it !
Edited by DH01 on Monday 10th July 21:30
I really enjoyed my Cayenne, one of the only cars i've had which I would buy again...handling was great fun. More enjoyable to drive than our 330i
But if its a 911 you want then a cayenne, boxster, cayman, macan just won't scratch it. You will end up with a Cayenne then still want to get a 911, perfect 2 car garage??
But if its a 911 you want then a cayenne, boxster, cayman, macan just won't scratch it. You will end up with a Cayenne then still want to get a 911, perfect 2 car garage??
"I want a 911. But I might buy a 2-tonne barge of an SUV instead!"
Just read that a few times. Badge apart, there is nothing about a Cayenne that is remotely like a 911.
I drove one for a day recently and came away utterly confused by all the hysteria about them. It drives well FOR AN SUV - so, basically, still pretty bloody awful if you like proper cars. It was certainly no more enjoyable to drive than my wife's 320i estate.
Just read that a few times. Badge apart, there is nothing about a Cayenne that is remotely like a 911.
I drove one for a day recently and came away utterly confused by all the hysteria about them. It drives well FOR AN SUV - so, basically, still pretty bloody awful if you like proper cars. It was certainly no more enjoyable to drive than my wife's 320i estate.
ORD said:
"I want a 911. But I might buy a 2-tonne barge of an SUV instead!"
Just read that a few times. Badge apart, there is nothing about a Cayenne that is remotely like a 911.
I drove one for a day recently and came away utterly confused by all the hysteria about them. It drives well FOR AN SUV - so, basically, still pretty bloody awful if you like proper cars. It was certainly no more enjoyable to drive than my wife's 320i estate.
Sounds to me like that is a major factor to the OP though...Just read that a few times. Badge apart, there is nothing about a Cayenne that is remotely like a 911.
I drove one for a day recently and came away utterly confused by all the hysteria about them. It drives well FOR AN SUV - so, basically, still pretty bloody awful if you like proper cars. It was certainly no more enjoyable to drive than my wife's 320i estate.
ORD said:
"I want a 911. But I might buy a 2-tonne barge of an SUV instead!"
Just read that a few times. Badge apart, there is nothing about a Cayenne that is remotely like a 911.
As someone that owns both I'd say the only thing you can compare is the quality of the interior and it obviously has the classic Porsche tacho etc. The Cayenne (if well specced) is a lovely place to sit. Our Cayenne is relatively new...I'd say the interior is definitely better quality than my 997 GTS...and at least as good as the 991.2 GTS I had on loan last week. Just read that a few times. Badge apart, there is nothing about a Cayenne that is remotely like a 911.
If you compare the Cayenne to an X5 or a RR you can tell it's been designed with the intent of it being the best car to drive...chassis way more capable than either of those on road. Not got the waft factor of the FFRR though...which to a lot of people is very important.
I also think you need either the 4.2 V8 S Diesel or the S Hybrid for it to feel like there is any "performance"...the 3.0d is perfectly adequate but not able to shift when you might want it to.
DH01 said:
Buy a Series 1 turbo or 4.5S with air suspension.
Any decent ones will have had most of the niggly jobs done by now, cardan shaft, water pipes etc.
Quite stunning cars with huge ability.
The pool of decent ones is quickly getting smaller.
Very different economics to running a 320d though !
Expect 22/24 mpg if you're very careful on the motorway. 17/18mpg in general running about and an empty tank very quickly if you toe it !
I have actually seen a couple of 2006 Turbo and Turbo S cars that I thought looked really good but I had heard there were a number of problems with these early cars and they were perhaps best avoided if they were only going to cost you more soon in terms of repairs.Any decent ones will have had most of the niggly jobs done by now, cardan shaft, water pipes etc.
Quite stunning cars with huge ability.
The pool of decent ones is quickly getting smaller.
Very different economics to running a 320d though !
Expect 22/24 mpg if you're very careful on the motorway. 17/18mpg in general running about and an empty tank very quickly if you toe it !
Edited by DH01 on Monday 10th July 21:30
I see you have mentioned to look for cardan shaft and water pipes that have been repaired - anything else I should be looking for in 2006 or earlier models?
I think it suits your requirements well. You can't compare it to a 911 as you say yourself, but it's a good car and it handles well for what it is.
If you can, defo go for the latest model even if pre Facelift rather than the first Generation (incl. Facelift) which is a barge by comparision and is really quite dated now (IMHO). Had X5s before and now the wife is into her second Cayenne and we haven't looked back.
On the later models the cabin is a nice place to be and for a first Porsche it will still feel special me thinks.
If you can, defo go for the latest model even if pre Facelift rather than the first Generation (incl. Facelift) which is a barge by comparision and is really quite dated now (IMHO). Had X5s before and now the wife is into her second Cayenne and we haven't looked back.
On the later models the cabin is a nice place to be and for a first Porsche it will still feel special me thinks.
Dr Ing said:
DH01 said:
Buy a Series 1 turbo or 4.5S with air suspension.
Any decent ones will have had most of the niggly jobs done by now, cardan shaft, water pipes etc.
Quite stunning cars with huge ability.
The pool of decent ones is quickly getting smaller.
Very different economics to running a 320d though !
Expect 22/24 mpg if you're very careful on the motorway. 17/18mpg in general running about and an empty tank very quickly if you toe it !
I have actually seen a couple of 2006 Turbo and Turbo S cars that I thought looked really good but I had heard there were a number of problems with these early cars and they were perhaps best avoided if they were only going to cost you more soon in terms of repairs.Any decent ones will have had most of the niggly jobs done by now, cardan shaft, water pipes etc.
Quite stunning cars with huge ability.
The pool of decent ones is quickly getting smaller.
Very different economics to running a 320d though !
Expect 22/24 mpg if you're very careful on the motorway. 17/18mpg in general running about and an empty tank very quickly if you toe it !
Edited by DH01 on Monday 10th July 21:30
I see you have mentioned to look for cardan shaft and water pipes that have been repaired - anything else I should be looking for in 2006 or earlier models?
Check that it doesn't use oil & the engine is near silent. If it ticks a piston is probably breaking up, this scraps the car as an engine change is not worthwhile. I have just had an oil change done with 15W/50 instead of the Mobil 1 dishwater stuff to see if this helps. I ran the same on the Boxster.
Thanks everyone so far - this really is so helpful.
If any of you Cayenne experts / drivers out has a few minutes and would like to have a look at a few of the cars on my shortlist then PM me and I'll send you the links. I'd really value another (probably more balanced) perspective on them...
If any of you Cayenne experts / drivers out has a few minutes and would like to have a look at a few of the cars on my shortlist then PM me and I'll send you the links. I'd really value another (probably more balanced) perspective on them...
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