993 Audio Upgrade - any help welcomed
Discussion
I have a lovely 9934S which I have had for 17 years now
But the only "weak spot" is the audio
Old technology obviously and I want to upgrade to Bluetooth etc so I can play music via my Iphone
Can't cope with the bling fronts of the normal ranges as any upgrade has to maintain the classic look
Might be mission impossible but all help welcomed
Thanks
Speak to Tore at https://www.bergvillfx.com/index.php/ Great guy he produced a custom harness to retain my BOSE speakers and amp whilst fitting an analogue CONTINENTAL CDD7418UB-OR in my 996, its DAB, Bluetooth, FM, CD and retains an original factory look.
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
https://www.classiccarstereo.co.uk/classic-car-ste...
The Bosch units towards the bottom probably suit your needs best
The Bosch units towards the bottom probably suit your needs best
Maxym said:
IIRC there's a Porsche accessory that has a decent radio plus nav within a period-looking shell. Aimed at 'classic air-cooled' models so might be too old-looking for your 993...?
There is but (a) it's hilariously expensive; (b) it doesn't have DAB; (c) the screen for the satnav is tinyI bought one because I'm a sucker for having an OEM logo, but I'm an idiot and I wouldn't suggest copying me.
I'm usually not one for adding aftermarket amps/etc into cars like the 993.
However, having come to the end of an extensive restoration of my 993, I would say it is worth considering.
Also, some of the legacy sound damping material in the doors will likely have disintegrated by now, so worth getting rid of it (its all likely in bits at the bottom of the door cavity). Can be replaced by some of the newer and better material so that you make the most of any upgrades. The door panel will take a 6" replacement (I had some JL units put in my previous car) without any cutting.
The underseat sub is a good idea. I have a pioneer unit under mine but am thinking of upgrading (OP drop me a line if you're interested in doing a deal on my existing one).
However, having come to the end of an extensive restoration of my 993, I would say it is worth considering.
Also, some of the legacy sound damping material in the doors will likely have disintegrated by now, so worth getting rid of it (its all likely in bits at the bottom of the door cavity). Can be replaced by some of the newer and better material so that you make the most of any upgrades. The door panel will take a 6" replacement (I had some JL units put in my previous car) without any cutting.
The underseat sub is a good idea. I have a pioneer unit under mine but am thinking of upgrading (OP drop me a line if you're interested in doing a deal on my existing one).
I've done myself some audio upgrades in 964-993 trying to respect the original look of the cars.
I use Blaupunkt for the source units, as some of them were OEM for 964 and 993 and they provide the 90's look I' m comfortable with. Blaupunkts from this time are technically very good, even for today standards, and most important, they can have the required options (preouts and aux-in) to make a decent audio setup.
I've tested a lot of them, and I ended choosing RCM/RDM models between 96 and 98, like London RDM 126, Heidelberg RCM 126 or Stockholm RCM 128, as these units have the display slightly recessed -this avoid light reflection, it's a nightmare in some previous models- and AUX input can be selected directly in the panel without any electrical trick in the connections.
External sources can be connected by cable or via Bluetooth using a Bluetooth-Aux device, Ampire in Germany makes one that even works with old units that require an electrical input to change the source. JL Audio makes his own, but it's more noisy than the Ampire.
For front speakers I use 6" Focals instead of OEM 5,25". They require some more room, but this can be solved using a custom made MDF adapter. Take a look here, you can find some ideas about: https://rennlist.com/forums/964-forum/824693-stere...
For rear speakers I use Hertz DCX 460, that are almost direct replacement for OEM. You don't have much options with this format, maybe Coral and some other, but the Hertz are good and can handle 40W.
The amplifier can be placed under the passenger seat, like the OEM. You need at least a 2-channel amp for the fronts or a 4 channel for front and rears, that is better but requires more space. Check the available room there and decide which one, but go for any modern unit that are more compact than the old style ones. I've use Focal and JL Audio, very happy with the results, but you have a lot of amp options.
Of course, you can go further with door insulation and a subwoofer, it depends on how crazy are you... but you can improve a lot the sound quality with this setup.
Regards.
I use Blaupunkt for the source units, as some of them were OEM for 964 and 993 and they provide the 90's look I' m comfortable with. Blaupunkts from this time are technically very good, even for today standards, and most important, they can have the required options (preouts and aux-in) to make a decent audio setup.
I've tested a lot of them, and I ended choosing RCM/RDM models between 96 and 98, like London RDM 126, Heidelberg RCM 126 or Stockholm RCM 128, as these units have the display slightly recessed -this avoid light reflection, it's a nightmare in some previous models- and AUX input can be selected directly in the panel without any electrical trick in the connections.
External sources can be connected by cable or via Bluetooth using a Bluetooth-Aux device, Ampire in Germany makes one that even works with old units that require an electrical input to change the source. JL Audio makes his own, but it's more noisy than the Ampire.
For front speakers I use 6" Focals instead of OEM 5,25". They require some more room, but this can be solved using a custom made MDF adapter. Take a look here, you can find some ideas about: https://rennlist.com/forums/964-forum/824693-stere...
For rear speakers I use Hertz DCX 460, that are almost direct replacement for OEM. You don't have much options with this format, maybe Coral and some other, but the Hertz are good and can handle 40W.
The amplifier can be placed under the passenger seat, like the OEM. You need at least a 2-channel amp for the fronts or a 4 channel for front and rears, that is better but requires more space. Check the available room there and decide which one, but go for any modern unit that are more compact than the old style ones. I've use Focal and JL Audio, very happy with the results, but you have a lot of amp options.
Of course, you can go further with door insulation and a subwoofer, it depends on how crazy are you... but you can improve a lot the sound quality with this setup.
Regards.
nethers66 said:
Speak to Tore at https://www.bergvillfx.com/index.php/ Great guy he produced a custom harness to retain my BOSE speakers and amp whilst fitting an analogue CONTINENTAL CDD7418UB-OR in my 996, its DAB, Bluetooth, FM, CD and retains an original factory look.
Hope this helps
+1 I have a Continental radio from Tore and for the money it is unbeatable. I went for the non-DAB one as I did not want the extra aerial. Works fine with Bluetooth and mini-USB. My aerial connection is not great but LW and MW good. FM, funny enough, not so. Hope this helps
Like VAG brands, importers must have done a deal with Sony as mine had a mad one with with 1000 tiny buttons. My car was a Porsche UK car so had all the extras. Lot of discussions on 911uk including best Becker.
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