IS PPF and ceramic coating a thing of the past !!!
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A self healing ceramic coating !! why have we not all seen this product ?
PPF is very expensive, it lifts at the edge no matter how good it's fitted, stone hits which puncher PPF look rank as dirt fills the hole and cannot be cleaned, so on light coloured cars the front looks rank, you are only making the car look nice for the next owner !
plus any wax or cleaning does gather at the edges.
most normal ceramic coatings offer zero protection, but make life easier to clean the car, again expensive for zero protection, more a life style product. all be it a very good one.
I have just seem this, I have no idea what it is, and I have no idea how it works
It also sounds like a female contraceptive !!
Feynlab !!!!
https://www.feynlab.com/
nano magnets !!! super fluid !!! :-)
any one know any thing ?
I thought it was PPF at first due to the wire brush swirls vids, but it's a coating which means no nasty edges !!
that noise of the wire brush !!! aggg then like magic it's like new
https://youtu.be/pV3jezowR3c
PPF is very expensive, it lifts at the edge no matter how good it's fitted, stone hits which puncher PPF look rank as dirt fills the hole and cannot be cleaned, so on light coloured cars the front looks rank, you are only making the car look nice for the next owner !
plus any wax or cleaning does gather at the edges.
most normal ceramic coatings offer zero protection, but make life easier to clean the car, again expensive for zero protection, more a life style product. all be it a very good one.
I have just seem this, I have no idea what it is, and I have no idea how it works
It also sounds like a female contraceptive !!
Feynlab !!!!
https://www.feynlab.com/
nano magnets !!! super fluid !!! :-)
any one know any thing ?
I thought it was PPF at first due to the wire brush swirls vids, but it's a coating which means no nasty edges !!
that noise of the wire brush !!! aggg then like magic it's like new
https://youtu.be/pV3jezowR3c
TDT said:
Looks interesting, good find... not sure how it will protect against stone chip penetration any differently to current coating offerings.
Yes much better protection against light scratches and marring due to self healing.. but what are the limits? one to watch i guess.
I am not a PPF fan, I hate the edges it leaves even on the 5k installs and it never looks as good as a waxed car :-( , and stone chips end up looking worse, only making the car look nice for the next owner when you remove the film ! I don't mind the odd stone chip and you can touch them in to high standard now days with a bit of skill/time, so while you own the car a touched in stone chip looks better than a PPF hit imo. Yes much better protection against light scratches and marring due to self healing.. but what are the limits? one to watch i guess.
maybe on >£100k cars still do the front bumper, for £600 with PPF but why do £5k PFF full car coverage which seems to happen more and more, they look s
t imo. you end up with a line of dirt on every edge over winter.this also seems to render all other ceramic coatings dated, a self healing ceramic coat, saves that £1.5k detail every summer, just go out with a hair dryer in spring and the car looks as new lol
Cheib said:
You can also get "spray on" PPF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDUHsUjSQwY&t=...
looks very expensive to fit/do as it takes a lot of masking and time and that does need a lot of skill imo.PPF also need a high standard of skill to do really well.
I am after a cheaper way to protect my cars without going the £5k ppf route or paying daft money.
and I don't have the time like I used to have to self detail my cars, although in the past I always have to high standards.
I don't pay the crazy detail prices as it very easy to prep a car, just takes time, it's quite skill less imo it's just about time available to do it well.
even my old GT3 came up well ;-)
and my TTRS was like a mirror ;-) and it's just a cheap £30 wax !
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 27th October 11:26
Very timely as I have just ordered 718 B GTS and am looking at alternative paint protection. I have PPF on my current car and have been very pleased with it - only had bumper, mirrors and rear wheel arches protected and the film is still as good as new after 8 years! I agree that some of the edges have picked up some dirt but only around the rear arches where the PPF was only applied to partial panel No such problems on front bumper where complete moulding was covered. This, I think is worth it as it avoids the inevitable re - spray of that panel after a few years. Like 911R I don't really see the point of covering the whole car though last week I did see a 911 RS completely covered and it was superb - though of course you could see the edges of the film in some places. As my car will be garaged and will not be a daily driver I don't see the point of the ceramic coatings as car will look just as good with regular waxing.
On balance, I will probably stich wit,h PPF though the new spray on products lokk interesting and worth further investigation.
On balance, I will probably stich wit,h PPF though the new spray on products lokk interesting and worth further investigation.
Cheib said:
You can also get "spray on" PPF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDUHsUjSQwY&t=...
14 coats, plus all the prep and masking. That's going to break the bank.My friend is an accredited Feynlab installer. It is excellent stuff, though they have Ceramic coats below the Heal product that work more like your standard ones - offering a few years of strong protection too. Definitely worth it on an expensive car - though most of the effort goes on the preparation - getting the paint as defect free as possible before the coating is applied. That can take a good few days if done properly.
Porsche911R said:
I am after a cheaper way to protect my cars without going the £5k ppf route or paying daft money.
I don't pay the crazy detail prices as it very easy to prep a car, just takes time, it's quite skill less imo it's just about time available to do it well.
even my old GT3 came up well ;-)
It definitely isn't easy or skill less to prepare a car for ceramic coating or PPF, as you can see from the missed product residue around your stone chip guard and leading edge of the door.I don't pay the crazy detail prices as it very easy to prep a car, just takes time, it's quite skill less imo it's just about time available to do it well.
even my old GT3 came up well ;-)
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 27th October 11:26
The paint work needs to be near perfect before the protection is applied which can take days of machine polishing in some cases, any swirls and things that are coated will be there for a long, long time.
Your reflection shot looks very nice but how does it look after an IPA panel wipe down under a direct light?
Ceramic coatings can help to reduce stone chipping but they're not bullet proof.
The same with PPF - some stones may penetrate the film but on the whole, they're there as a sacrificial layer on top of the paint.
The best solution - PPF on high impact areas for stone chips - bonnet, bumper - then ceramic coat the entire car including the PPF. It will be way under £5k
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