Which Porsches have the VW suspension, chassis etc?
Discussion
I know the 356 used lots of VW parts, including suspension parts. But I'm not sure how much of it was from the beetle suspension.And I think also the beetle engine? But how much of the suspension was beetle?
And how much of the 914 was beetle if any?
I also know the 924 used the beetle transaxle and rear suspension.
Thanks.
And how much of the 914 was beetle if any?
I also know the 924 used the beetle transaxle and rear suspension.
Thanks.
Edited by J4x4K on Tuesday 31st October 22:34
For the 924, the front suspension comprised lower A-arms from the Golf and coil-sprung MacPherson struts from the Super Beetle.
Back were torsion bars and Beetle semi-trailing arms; the halfshafts came from VW’s Type 181 utility vehicle. Steering was Golf rack-and-pinion with a slower ratio (19.2:1). Brakes were front discs from the Beetle and rear drums picked up from the VW K70.
Back were torsion bars and Beetle semi-trailing arms; the halfshafts came from VW’s Type 181 utility vehicle. Steering was Golf rack-and-pinion with a slower ratio (19.2:1). Brakes were front discs from the Beetle and rear drums picked up from the VW K70.
Thanks for all replies.
I'm aware of the modern Porsches which share VW parts and even platforms.
But I'm interested in the parts sharing with classic Porsches only and specifically in the models that used Beetle parts.
I was surprised with the 924 using Beetle rear suspension as the 924 was said to handle very well for its time and even today is supposedly holds.
The 356 and 550 also had lots of Beetle parts. But suspension as well?
I'm aware of the modern Porsches which share VW parts and even platforms.
But I'm interested in the parts sharing with classic Porsches only and specifically in the models that used Beetle parts.
I was surprised with the 924 using Beetle rear suspension as the 924 was said to handle very well for its time and even today is supposedly holds.
The 356 and 550 also had lots of Beetle parts. But suspension as well?
J4x4K said:
OK. I guess I need to find a more specialized Porsche forum. Maybe a German forum where posters are closer to the source and more than just Porsche fans or owners but actual enthusiasts or even experts. Cheers.
Ahem .... pretty sure there are a few experts and many enthusiasts on here - maybe just not experts on this particular topic lucido grigio said:
The 924 does not have Beetle rear suspension and the reply above doesn't actually state this.
Might not be the whole suspension. But according to what I could dig up, it also used Beetle parts in the rear. The whole car drivers like a RWD Scirocco, so it's not very surprising that most of it is VW.J4x4K said:
Might not be the whole suspension. But according to what I could dig up, it also used Beetle parts in the rear. The whole car drivers like a RWD Scirocco, so it's not very surprising that most of it is VW.
Eh?I think there are a fair few early (and I mean really early) 356 parts that are the same as VW. There are a lot of later 356 parts that are similar, and can be interchanged with VW parts but they are completely different.
Some 924 parts crossover as it was originally going to be a VAG product until they pulled the plug. They are more water cooled parts though, rear suspension is similar as in torsen bar, but not the same from memory
Here's a decent summary - http://www.924.org/techsection/SuspensionPreparati...
Fast Bug said:
Eh?
I think there are a fair few early (and I mean really early) 356 parts that are the same as VW. There are a lot of later 356 parts that are similar, and can be interchanged with VW parts but they are completely different.
Some 924 parts crossover as it was originally going to be a VAG product until they pulled the plug. They are more water cooled parts though, rear suspension is similar as in torsen bar, but not the same from memory
Sure. More from the water cooled cars. But also from the air cooled cars it seems. Maybe it was only the early cars and it was changed after revisions. But researching online I found that the suspension had the MacPherson struts from the VW Rabbit at the front and the rear trailing arms from the VW Beetle, rear axle shafts from VW Thing (Type 181), brakes at rear were drums from an European VW van and steering rack and links from the VW Scirocco. And also that the 4 speed manual transmission mounted within the rear axle housing was from the VW Beetle.I think there are a fair few early (and I mean really early) 356 parts that are the same as VW. There are a lot of later 356 parts that are similar, and can be interchanged with VW parts but they are completely different.
Some 924 parts crossover as it was originally going to be a VAG product until they pulled the plug. They are more water cooled parts though, rear suspension is similar as in torsen bar, but not the same from memory
Edited by J4x4K on Tuesday 7th November 00:06
AW10 said:
It drives like a car that doesn't exist... WTF, over?
I guess I have to break it down for you. It drives like a VW. That's it. If it wasn't for the fact it's RWD it would be probably the same. It has the same feeling of driving a VW. But you don't get that same feeling for example when driving the 928. I still remember the first time I drove a RX7 FB on a track. It was autocross day and I had just driven my friend's 924 and then I got to drive a RX7 FB for the first time. I remember being surprised by how much better of a sports car the RX7 was compared to the Porsche 924. The 924 feels like a VW. This is all I can say. I don't know how else to explain it. I've driven Rabbits, Golfs, Sciroccos etc on a track and this is what the 924 reminds of when driving it. Like I said the 928 doesn't give me that feeling.
By the way, the 928 escaped in the last minute. They also wanted to give it an Audi based engine in the beginning. Thank God somebody at Porsche had some sense not to do it. Whatever else they did to it made it feel not like a VW.
peterg1955 said:
For the 924, the front suspension comprised lower A-arms from the Golf and coil-sprung MacPherson struts from the Super Beetle.
Back were torsion bars and Beetle semi-trailing arms; the halfshafts came from VW’s Type 181 utility vehicle. Steering was Golf rack-and-pinion with a slower ratio (19.2:1). Brakes were front discs from the Beetle and rear drums picked up from the VW K70.
So close Pete. Front brakes were VW K70 derived and the rear drums were Super Beetle. The whole rear axle / torsion bar carrier was Thing-derived too.Back were torsion bars and Beetle semi-trailing arms; the halfshafts came from VW’s Type 181 utility vehicle. Steering was Golf rack-and-pinion with a slower ratio (19.2:1). Brakes were front discs from the Beetle and rear drums picked up from the VW K70.
Transaxles were a mixture of Audi 4spd and Porsche and Audi 5spd.
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