2008 - Boxster RS60

[OhThatHurtAbit]

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Thought i'd drag this thread back up as a colleague seems to think that these could be the next collectable and are currently undervalued?

I saw the Silverstone Auctions example went though at just under £31,000 last year (noted in the thread above), and can see one-owner, sensible mileage cars up at well under £30,000 at the moment. Always liked the look of them and limited run Porsches do tend to appreciate in the long-term. One to buy and stick in the garage for special days?

[Porsche911R]

yep can sell you a nice one for £50k :-)

[STiG911]

...and in the rational response column:

I've always had a soft spot for these. The red interior is just amazing, and with the matching roof it looks the absolute business. There are some with the grey interior and black roof, but that just misses the point, IMO.

A Pal ran one for about two years and he loved it. It was a thing to behold in the metal, particularly with the 'Sport Design' front bumper, and his had all of the (few) options that were left out from the factory (BOSE, Sat Nav and Phone Module), but it was the combination of the Sports Exhaust, 5mm spacers for a Wider Track, Short Shift, Sports Chrono and PASM (All standard on the RS60) that added up to a great drive. Yes, there are other Boxsters out there with variations on these options, but those with all of them are very few and far between.

Overall I think it is a special car and deservedly so. Is it a 'collectible'? I'm not so sure, but the limited run does assure at least a higher value over similarly aged / specced cars, particularly as most RS60s have low mileages for their age.

[STiG911]

anonymous said:

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Sorry, I try to provide a balanced viewpoint, rather than just Engage Cynicism.

[Captain James T]

Just look at the 911 Carrera Classic. A 997 GTS in drag and no better to drive, but look at the price of the things!

Limited production rarity in the Porsche world means 'collectable' and in a few more years the RS60 will be one of those. No better than a tarted up Boxster S, but its rarity will ensure its value will be silly as the nice ones dry up.

[BrotherMouzone]

I understand the risk and (poor) VFM etc.

But just look at it. Such a pretty car in sliver/red combo!

[Heaveho]

STiG911 said:

Sorry, I try to provide a balanced viewpoint, rather than just Engage Cynicism.

The fact it's a 3.4 would dictate the value for me. In negative terms. I certainly wouldn't be paying more for a car to expose me to more risk than any other engine variant, reliability wise. Especially when the 3.2 has a negligible performance deficit.

[Boxsterjon]

I've had my RS60 for a couple of years and it's been an absolute joy. Looks good, drives beautifully and comes with all the toys. It's always felt just a little more special than my previous 'standard' 987.

I'm about to scratch a 981 itch so if anyone is interested, do drop me a line.

[STiG911]

anonymous said:

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Yep. Nothing cynical about that...hence my post based on an actual owners experience to balance out your dross.

[billzeebub]

Boxsterjon said:

I've had my RS60 for a couple of years and it's been an absolute joy. Looks good, drives beautifully and comes with all the toys. It's always felt just a little more special than my previous 'standard' 987.

I'm about to scratch a 981 itch so if anyone is interested, do drop me a line.

Indeed. It is a special edition and as such will always be worth more than the usual Boxster S in commensurate condition. I agree with the ownership proposition view too. I have owned a couple of fairly high-spec standard 986 Boxster S and also a 986 550 Spyder Anniversary. There are so many small improvements over the already excellent standard car that add up to make a much more special ownership experience. Driving a car that is fairly unique, built in limited numbers and designed in homage of a legend is also a nice feeling. If the cars are maintained well and mileage is kept below average then there should always be a ready market for them at a premium. Though I don't ever see them going on the same trajectory as limited edition 911s.

Edited by billzeebub on Tuesday 13th February 18:39

[jakesmith]

anonymous said:

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You see I’d say you’re the one who has been spoiling for a fight on this thread right from the start. The reason I think that is because it’s not what you say, but the way you say, it you see.

You’re disparaging and dismissive over these cars, you know full well there are owners who love them and think they are a little bit bit special and you’re just completely dismissing them with unnecessarily strong language. That is a provocative way to behave.

Everyone knows they aren’t GR3 RS special but why do you feel the need for such a hatchet job on the cars?

You could say exactly the same thing without using phrases like ‘tarted up’ and then you would make your point without getting backs up.

You may be factually correct in what you write but you often don’t take people with you because of the arrogant way you write. And then as soon as someone tries to call you you on it you revert to accusing them of what, in fact, you have been doing as though the best form of defence is attack. If you differ, tell me what is not factually correct in my post?

Edited by jakesmith on Wednesday 14th February 08:01

[STiG911]

jakesmith said:

You see I’d say you’re the one who has been spoiling for a fight on this thread right from the start. The reason I think that is because it’s not what you say, but the way you say, it you see.

You’re disparaging and dismissive over these cars, you know full well there are owners who love them and think they are a little bit bit special and you’re just completely dismissing them with unnecessarily strong language. That is a provocative way to behave.

Everyone knows they aren’t GR3 RS special but why do you feel the need for such a hatchet job on the cars?

You could say exactly the same thing without using phrases like ‘tarted up’ and then you would make your point without getting backs up.

You may be factually correct in what you write but you often don’t take people with you because of the arrogant way you write. And then as soon as someone tries to call you you on it you revert to accusing them of what, in fact, you have been doing as though the best form of defence is attack. If you differ, tell me what is not factually correct in my post?

Edited by jakesmith on Wednesday 14th February 08:01

This^

[STiG911]

anonymous said:

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Your original post started off as a rant and went downhill from there. It's possible to explain in a more concise manner how you feel about a particular car even if that feeling is negative, but you seem incapable not only of not doing that, but also refusing to believe people when they point out the attitude in your writing.

[jakesmith]

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[WCZ]

there's nothing special about them other than the limited numbers, but because the market is insane there is a good chance of them increasing in value solely based on this

[jakesmith]

anonymous said:

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3....2...1 and here it is again, another textbook 'victim statement', straight out of the 'C'Moose 2 stage playbook as follows:

Stage 1 - join a discussion and express often well thought out logical viewpoints, but using language that can simply not be described in any other way than patronising, irritating, antagonistic. I think I gave an adequate example above?

Stage 2 - the moment anyone calls this out, attack them and accuse them of starting trouble, making ad-hom arguments, hypocrisy etc.

You therefore often come across as a narcissistic bully and many of the threads you participate on result in the sort of disharmony that makes this site unpleasant to use for many. This doesn't happen with pretty much any other thread on the Porsche part of the site that I read or other fora I use that you thankfully don't participate on. Laughable that you accused me of starting trouble on the povery pork thread when you had clearly gone out of your way to attempt to deride my car. What did you think would happen?

You may have made some 'car friends' on Piston-heads



but even the fact that you feel the need to keep telling us this demonstrates the inner turmoil and insecurity that informs 90% of your posting behaviour

[911-32]

anonymous said:

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All going well until the last sentence - which I reckon you might agree was a tad unnecessary if you were being honest

I don't post here very much and I know my opinion is probably worth a lot less than $0.02, however, maybe (just maybe) this kind of unneeded throw away line on the end of an otherwise decent post is why folks call you out. I like your generally well reasoned posts, but I also get a tiny bit tired of the attitude that is sometimes thrown in. Of course, it's completely up to you how you want others to perceive you - I am just letting you know that this is how you are perceived, but maybe you know that already and don't care.

There are others on here who are way worse - so bad, that I think they are irredeemable and not worth a post at all. I have more faith in you. The technical content of your posts indicate intelligence and a real understanding of cars. Why don't you try dialling it back a fraction for a week or 2 and see what happens? Let others "win" the internet for a bit and see what happens.

Just a thought. Maybe I will post again in 2019...

[Sustenpass]

Hmmm.

Pretty clear that jake joined the thread purely to start an argument about moose starting an argument. Even though only one of them has addressed the topic at hand, the other resorting to memes and dredging up previous bickering.

The RS60 is a lovely looking thing, but I have to agree with several posters here: the car is a run-out special with a few nice options but hobbled the well documented chocolate engine. Of course it'll be lovely to drive, like all Boxsters - an investment it ain't. I'd put it in the same category as 'Black Edition' Porsches.

To those who disagree with this, I hope your feelings aren't hurt...

Edited by Sustenpass on Wednesday 14th February 22:08

[STiG911]

Sustenpass said:

The RS60 is a lovely looking thing, but I have to agree with several posters here: the car is a run-out special with a few nice options but hobbled the well documented chocolate engine. Of course it'll be lovely to drive, like all Boxsters - an investment it ain't. I'd put it in the same category as 'Black Edition' Porsches.

Edited by Sustenpass on Wednesday 14th February 22:08

That's a very good point, actually. I'd certainly put the RS60 in with the Black Editions for being worth a slightly more cos of the extra bits, but not collectible.