Embedded SIM Issue
Embedded SIM Issue
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Numan67

Original Poster:

5 posts

92 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Anyone else experiencing embedded SIM issues on new cars?

I have a new Cayenne and SIM isn't working. apparently this is a wider issue across Porsche affecting some 2018 models not just the new Cayenne.

Car has been with dealership a week now and still no fix.


Cheib

25,018 posts

198 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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I noticed the WiFi from the embedded SIM on our Macan Turbo PP wasn't working last night....I can live without it 95% of the time and assumed it was a reception problem. I'll see if it's working tonight, although if it isn't it's not critical enough in my case for me to take the time to book it in specially with the OPC.

Numan67

Original Poster:

5 posts

92 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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I thought the same and the OPC was dealing with the SIM issue however following morning the car wouldn't start, no electrical power. I have assumed it's connected. Porsche assist took car to OPC and now just waiting.

The other issue is that the PVTS isn't working without the SIM!

pete

1,627 posts

307 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Not specifically the embedded SIM, but I have repeated problems getting the data package enabled. I spent the first month without the car recognising the data package set up on the store; then a month of it working; now another week where the store just shows the data packaged as "activation in progress". It seems Porsche are struggling with their products now being mobile computing devices as well as bloody good cars! It's more infuriating that the actual LTE / 4G connection for weather, remote access, etc works fine, but I just can't use it as a data connection and hence to get Amazon Music working.

It does seem to be a widespread problem, on the basis that nobody from Porsche Connect ever bothers to reply to my calls or emails, so I assume they've just given up talking to customers about it. It doesn't give me any confidence that they have the first idea how to properly diagnose and solve these distributed mobile problems.

Here's a good example of the weirdness I see: if there is a phone paired to the wifi hotspot, and the 4G modem passes into a low signal area, it will never regain 4G connectivity until the PCM phone is switched off and back on. If there's no device connected to the hotspot, it loses and regains the 4G data connection fine. I've spent 17 years developing exactly these sorts of systems from the hardware level upwards, so I appreciate it's *very difficult*, but this smacks of a product released by people who just don't appreciate that IOT and mobile systems need a very different sort of testing.

5to1

1,789 posts

256 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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No issues with mine for core functionality (maps, send to car, etc), i.e. everything that doesn't need the add on data package.

I only used the add on data package for internet radio, don't really need wifi hotspot/etc. But it worked fine until the free bundle expired the other day. To be honest, given their prices I wouldn't bother using their SIM, far cheaper to pickup a Paygo with data preloaded.

For example you can usually grab a 12GB "3" Paygo SIM for ~£20. We use them a lot for testing. Only issue is (having asked during the masterclass), theres only one 4G modem, so all the Porsche connect data will go through your SIM as well. But you can leave it in the slot and only plug it in when you intend to use it I guess.

I have had a couple of other issue which I shared with the masterclass tech:

Firstly if two bluetooth devices are connected. When one drops off (say person leaves the car) it takes the other one out as well. Sometimes both devices randomly disconnect, indicating a car issue rather then device issue.

Wing mirror dipping for parking is inconsistent. Leaving mirror button on left mirror should mean it dips when you go into reverse. But sometimes you have to toggle L -> R -> L to get the wing mirror to dip.


pete

1,627 posts

307 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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I just had a call back from Porsche Connect who've identified a "server issue" with my data packages. We'll see! I notice they've extended the free period out to the end of September now, but I will definitely be switching to a PAYG SIM after that if they persist with the crazy pricing.

I have the same problems with the mirror dipping. Too much technology...

5to1

1,789 posts

256 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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pete said:
I just had a call back from Porsche Connect who've identified a "server issue" with my data packages. We'll see! I notice they've extended the free period out to the end of September now, but I will definitely be switching to a PAYG SIM after that if they persist with the crazy pricing.

I have the same problems with the mirror dipping. Too much technology...
Thanks for that, hadn't spotted they'd added another data pack. It looks like its a fresh offering, rather then extension, as you get another 7GB rather then it extending expiry on what was left of the previous pack.

Just added it, not that i'll use it biggrin (Lets see if it shows up in the car for me, or if I also suffer at the hands of the "server" biggrin ).

The wing mirror issue is annoying, despite the fact I have surround view.

Another annoyance is the lack of flexibility of the two smaller screens. I have maps permanently on the right screen so I can see RTTI info (i.e. if I see a red line, I can avoid that road). But that means I can't see fuel, temp, etc. Instead I'm locked to useless info in the left screen. Particularly the NAV directions which are non sensical. For example the graphic which shows which exit on a roundabout is stupid for want of a better word, it doesn't show you which exit and what one would expect to mean first exit means second for example :/

I told the masterclass tech either get some decent UI/UX and VO consultants in or go back to building dumb cars :/


Numan67

Original Poster:

5 posts

92 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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The data issue is a broader issue affecting multiple models. Hoping for a temporary fix next week and a potential recall later.

Hadn't had the car long enough to know if any other issues!!


pete

1,627 posts

307 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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5to1 - Yes, the left hand screen is useless. I can put a plethora of things on the right hand side, even G forces, but the left screen is doomed to show external temperature forever, unless you've spent a lot on driving assistance options. It would be great if Porsche eventually change some of these things in software, but I suspect they won't. I'm nitpicking though :-)

Cheib

25,018 posts

198 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Still having issues with the embedded SIM. I spoke to someone this morning who has assured me the problem has been rectified....I'll find out when I get home this evening!

Numan67

Original Poster:

5 posts

92 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Would be interested to know. Still no ETA on mine.

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pete

1,627 posts

307 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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Anyone had any luck with this problem yet? It’s still broken for me :-(

Numan67

Original Poster:

5 posts

92 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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Still not working for me either

pete

1,627 posts

307 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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Hurrah! It seems to be fixed at last. Data connection is back, and the Cayenne is doing a sterling job transporting family and a large roof box of camping stuff down to the south of France at a great rate of knots. I’m not telling the children though; this is a great excuse for two weeks of no YouTube Kids... :-)