Porsche buckets
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Maxym

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2,721 posts

258 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Buckets, folding buckets, lightweight buckets...

What are the differences (apart from what's obvious from the names) and what are the pros and cons? I'm thinking in particular about height and any adjustability (apart from fore-aft).

Thanks in advance...

PDKSport

101 posts

96 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Folding buckets I had in my 991.1 GT3 and they were very comfortable and of course you could lean them forward to get some items in the back. They only adjust forward and back.
Fixed buckets (918) seats I have in my 991.2 GT3rs and are every bit as comfy but not as easy to get items in the back. They adjust forward and back but have the added electric height adjustment. Great for my small daughter and wife who drive the car. With the folding buckets I needed a foam insert for them.
Now I hear the gasps: you daughter and wife drive the RS? Yes.
In summary, both are very hugging (seats and daughter and wife) and supporting and great for track use and every day driving including long distance.
Don’t get comfort seats, in my opinion not in keeping with a GT car.
Cheers.

Cheib

24,961 posts

197 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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918 Buckets give you a lower seating position.

Folding buckets can be heated

Folding buckets are more upright so some people don’t like them because if you wear a helmet on track it pushes you Lr head forward

For me the 918 Buckets are more comfortable as I think they have more “accommodation” in the hip area and the fact they sit lower is important as I am tallish and I like the seat low.

Quite a few people say they think the seat booster is too short in the 918 buckets, personally I don’t find that.

You can’t generalise everyone is different you need to sit and ideally drive a car with both.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

287 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Cheib said:
918 Buckets give you a lower seating position.

Folding buckets can be heated

Folding buckets are more upright so some people don’t like them because if you wear a helmet on track it pushes you Lr head forward

For me the 918 Buckets are more comfortable as I think they have more “accommodation” in the hip area and the fact they sit lower is important as I am tallish and I like the seat low.

Quite a few people say they think the seat booster is too short in the 918 buckets, personally I don’t find that.

You can’t generalise everyone is different you need to sit and ideally drive a car with both.
It’s the fixed buckets which are more upright, the folding are very nice angle, same as a race seat in fact, 918 are way to upright.

Folding advantages
1: more comfy for most
2: less upright
3: feel more snug
4: heated
5: folding so rear access for bags etc.
6: lighter

918 advantages:
1: height adjust.



Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 14th September 10:08

Maxym

Original Poster:

2,721 posts

258 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Great info - thanks Guys.

918 buckets = lightweight, yes?

Budflicker

3,799 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Porsche911R said:
It’s the fixed buckets which are more upright, the folding are very nice angle, same as a race seat in fact, 918 are way to upright.

Folding advantages
1: more comfy for most
2: less upright
3: feel more snug
4: heated
5: folding so rear access for bags etc.

918 advantages:
1: height adjust.
Did you go for folding buckets in the GT3?

Taffy66

5,964 posts

124 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Maxym said:
Great info - thanks Guys.

918 buckets = lightweight, yes?
They both weight pretty much exactly the same ie 76 lbs each..

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

218 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Bucket seats that are heated, with electric motors and airbags? Pah!

Cheib

24,961 posts

197 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Maxym said:
Great info - thanks Guys.

918 buckets = lightweight, yes?
Yes and 911 R is correct about the 918/LWB being more upright.

He's wrong about the Folding being more comfortable for most though ! wink

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

287 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Budflicker said:
Did you go for folding buckets in the GT3?
To right, I speced it for me, I hate the 918 seats.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

287 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Bucket seats that are heated, with electric motors and airbags? Pah!
I agree Porsche make RS models and goto so much hassle to save 10kg and they could save circa 16kg on seats alone. I always found that odd.

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 14th September 10:06

Taffy66

5,964 posts

124 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Porsche911R said:
I agree Porsche make RS models and goto so much hassle to save 10kg and they could save 50kg on seats alone. I always found that odd.
US legislation dictates seat spec.The folding buckets are no longer available in the US due to lack of height adjustment.Its also the reason why the 918s are so upright as it reduces the distance between the back of the head and the headrest whilst driving. Daft but true and a cage is not allowed on US Porsches.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

218 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Taffy66 said:
Its also the reason why the 918s are so upright as it reduces the distance between the back of the head and the headrest whilst driving. Daft but true and a cage is not allowed on US Porsches.
I know about the cage but is the headrest thing true? How can that even make a difference?

Cheib

24,961 posts

197 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Taffy66 said:
Porsche911R said:
Its also the reason why the 918s are so upright as it reduces the distance between the back of the head and the headrest whilst driving. Daft but true and a cage is not allowed on US Porsches.
Not daft...reduces whiplash. BMW. Merc et al had active headrests maybe ten to fifteen years ago to achieve the same result.

isaldiri

23,356 posts

190 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Porsche911R said:
I agree Porsche make RS models and goto so much hassle to save 10kg and they could save 50kg on seats alone. I always found that odd.
Bearing in mind each 918 seat only weighs 17kg, Porsche would be hard put to save 50kg on seats alone......

OP, you need to sit yourself on cars with both seats to properly tell which you like irrespective of what others say as different people suit different seats. People are generally only going to talk up their current car's seat as the only/best option for everyone else. I personally think all 3 of the Porsche recent seat options (cgt fixed/gt2 folding/918 fixed) are suboptimal in one way or another and it's just as well despite being a bit upright I don't mind the cgt seats that some really dislike as I have them in my cars now. Having briefly sat in a 996 bucket, I actually think that they seemed better for me than those that came after.....

Edited by isaldiri on Thursday 13th September 22:48

Tommie38

966 posts

216 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Is there an impact on values? In the days of clubsport Recaros and what everybody called ‘comfort’ seats (but were actually the sport seats from the standard cars), the cars with the Recaros were generally worth more.

NBTBRV8

2,064 posts

230 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Porsche911R said:
It’s the fixed buckets which are more upright, the folding are very nice angle, same as a race seat in fact, 918 are way to upright.

Folding advantages
1: more comfy for most
2: less upright
3: feel more snug
4: heated
5: folding so rear access for bags etc.

918 advantages:
1: height adjust.
100% agree.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

287 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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NBTBRV8 said:
Porsche911R said:
It’s the fixed buckets which are more upright, the folding are very nice angle, same as a race seat in fact, 918 are way to upright.

Folding advantages
1: more comfy for most
2: less upright
3: feel more snug
4: heated
5: folding so rear access for bags etc.

918 advantages:
1: height adjust.
100% agree.
I will also add the folding are actually lighter than the odd named LWB lol this is due to the extra sub frame and motor needed for the height adjust !!!

So the folding bucket is the lightest seat Porsche make atm. not much in it but still the LWB weighs more , so the name is misleading !!!

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

287 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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isaldiri said:
Bearing in mind each 918 seat only weighs 17kg, Porsche would be hard put to save 50kg on seats alone......
yep a bit daft that quote I agree, I have changed it to circa 16kg for a pair of real carbon race seats and frames.

isaldiri

23,356 posts

190 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Porsche911R said:
I will also add the folding are actually lighter than the odd named LWB lol this is due to the extra sub frame and motor needed for the height adjust !!!

So the folding bucket is the lightest seat Porsche make atm. not much in it but still the LWB weighs more , so the name is misleading !!!
Both are supposed to weigh more or less the same. 17ish kg. still waiting for you to say how one can lose 50kg from those seats....