Tyre wear on first track day.
Tyre wear on first track day.
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milleman

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147 posts

272 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Booked on a track day in a couple of weeks and want some advice on the rear tyres.

They are nearly at the wear blocks especialy on the nearside-should I replace them before hand?. Don't want to get any grief when I get there.

3.6 996.

Cheers

Super_Marv

290 posts

290 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Problem is, if you put new tyres on before the trackday, more than likely, they'll fall appart - new tyres need a good few KM's underneath them before they go on track...

Don

28,378 posts

311 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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milleman said:
Booked on a track day in a couple of weeks and want some advice on the rear tyres.

They are nearly at the wear blocks especialy on the nearside-should I replace them before hand?. Don't want to get any grief when I get there.

3.6 996.

Cheers


Does the organiser have tyre support? If so - why not book two new tyres, do the trackday - and have the new ones put on at the end.

Brand new tyres suffer from tread squirm and suffer bad wear initially on track. There again - you have a couple of weeks - you could get them changes now and go scrub them in - a few hundred miles should suffice.

Enjoy your day.

GreenV8S

31,003 posts

311 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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New tyres will wear a lot faster than old ones, partly because the extra tread depth deflects more and generates more heat and friction and partly because the tread material is physically softer. Neither brand new nor knackered tyres are ideal, but if you have the choice then I would fit new tyres, scrub them in for a couple of hundred miles and then put them through three or four heat cycles to finish curing them. Also run them a PSI or two softer than normal on the track.

verysideways

10,268 posts

299 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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I'm a firm believer in old knackered tyres.
You can really lean on them hard, and if you get to the point where they start to overheat a bit they'll slide beatifully - it won't help you go faster (in fact your lap times will probably get worse) but you'll get to learn a lot more about the car "at the limit" because the limit is easier to get to.
Plus, when you completely wreck them by sliding them around you won't care because they were due for replacement anyway!

As someone else has already said, if there is tyre support at the track, go ruin your old ones and then have the new ones fitted for the drive home.

VS

t urbo

218 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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I too am a great believer of using the old tyres.
My rears are like slicks on the inside edges but im going bedford on the 9th june and there coming, no way am i putting on new rubber then wrecking them in a couple of hours.I wanna see thread before i change them bad boys.

david hype

2,296 posts

279 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Guys, just interested to know what is the lowest legally acceptable amount of tread allowed for a track day?

t urbo

218 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Not sure there is one. Ive necer had my tyres checked. Normally they are only interested in noise levels and your towing eye.

GreenV8S

31,003 posts

311 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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If they're very worn then you may be in danger of wearing through the tread into the carcase. This has a completely different (less grippy) compound, and once you're into here relatively little extra wear can damage the fabric leading to catastrophic failure. I appreciate the school of thought that says keep the decent tyres for the road, but personally I think it's false economy - the track is where you need decent grip, predictable handling, and absolutely avoid any risk of high speed catastrophic failure. If the thought of a couple of mm tyre wear worries you then to put this into context consider how much you're spending on the track day (fees, fuel, brakes, servicing etc) and decide whether you want to compromise all that by running knackered tyres. If that doesn't ursuade you then start adding up how much it's going to cost you if anything goes wrong. If you're going on track then you want everything A1, if it isn't then stay in the paddock.

milleman

Original Poster:

147 posts

272 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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Decided to renew them, £170.00 each plus VAT for Conti's.

911nutter

1,916 posts

278 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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FYI Kwik Fit (no laughing please) are doing essentially 4 for the price of 3 on michelin tyres until early June. Might save you £200 odd....