Bolton OPC -991 Mexico GT3 RS- down £15k - market value?

[donutskidmark]

This started at 200 and it’s now down by 15 grand.......makes the OPC look slightly greedy/silly








I do think though considering the prices being asked for a 991.2 GT3 this ain’t too bad a deal now,......especially for a PTS car with no miles ???

[GT4RS]

For 10k to 15k more you can buy a gen 2 car.

Drive it 4000 miles in the summer and you would be lucky to get bid £140k for it, doesn’t look good value to me and for the dealer to take £15k off the asking price sums up the way the market is going.

I bet it’s SOR and the seller is trying to get out for £160k to £165k for it, the rest is in it for dealers prep, warranty and profit etc.

We can only hope the seller didn’t pay at crazy overs when these were asking £250k. If the poor sod did, those 400 odd miles have been pretty expensive motoring.

Would of been cheaper to buy a Mclaren

All in my opinion of cause and my opinion isn’t factual like other people’s opinions on here!

[PDKSport]

I actually think quite a fair price. Must be (what) £35k over list price? So assuming bought at list, everyone gets their money back and a few quid in their pocket. If you can do that on a car these days, good on you.

Only thing I don't get is the low mileage. I've put 4,000 miles on my 991.2 in 5 months and will continue to drive it all year round as driving is what it's all about, isn't it? Not the money made or lost.

Thanks.

[Robbo66]

GT4RS said:

For 10k to 15k more you can buy a gen 2 car.

Drive it 4000 miles in the summer and you would be lucky to get bid £140k for it, doesn’t look good value to me and for the dealer to take £15k off the asking price sums up the way the market is going.

I bet it’s SOR and the seller is trying to get out for £160k to £165k for it, the rest is in it for dealers prep, warranty and profit etc.

We can only hope the seller didn’t pay at crazy overs when these were asking £250k. If the poor sod did, those 400 odd miles have been pretty expensive motoring.

Would of been cheaper to buy a Mclaren

All in my opinion of cause and my opinion isn’t factual like other people’s opinions on here!

This.

[moonigan]

This has been there since summer. I remember discussing it at the time with someone in the showroom and I'm sure they took it in PX for either another GT3 RS or a GT2 RS.

[Porsche911R]

looks at least £20k over priced to me ! this is only in my opinion !

But yet another day another price thread , why ?

[GT4RS]

Porsche911R said:

looks at least £20k over priced to me ! this is only in my opinion !

But yet another day another price thread , why ?

Can only assume plenty of people having been watching prices of certain cars for sometime and it is of interest to them?

In all fairness prices aside it looks a stunner.

[Porsche911R]

GT4RS said:

Can only assume plenty of people having been watching prices of certain cars for sometime and it is of interest to them?

In all fairness prices aside it looks a stunner.

I think 991.1 GT3, RS and GT4 are in for a massive correction, overs on cars like these are just not sustainable long term after new models come out and are dropping daily. I am shocked at 991.1 prices to be fair how high they still are.

Even the super rare Voodoo blue GT4 keepers are both for sale atm.

The thing with all these models are the new ones are and will be far better. in the 997 days they were last of an era, the 3 cars above are VERY over valued atm and seem to have very few buyers as for a few £ more you can buy a new one 991.2 RS selling prices are really sub £200k now as 911 sport proved selling theirs while every one else's are still for sale.

what has been odd is the firming up of 997.1 GT3's while 997.2 drop the 997.1 has gone up again a tad to franky daft values.

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 20th December 09:33

[Yellow491]

GT4RS said:

For 10k to 15k more you can buy a gen 2 car.

Drive it 4000 miles in the summer and you would be lucky to get bid £140k for it, doesn’t look good value to me and for the dealer to take £15k off the asking price sums up the way the market is going.

I bet it’s SOR and the seller is trying to get out for £160k to £165k for it, the rest is in it for dealers prep, warranty and profit etc.

We can only hope the seller didn’t pay at crazy overs when these were asking £250k. If the poor sod did, those 400 odd miles have been pretty expensive motoring.

Would of been cheaper to buy a Mclaren

All in my opinion of cause and my opinion isn’t factual like other people’s opinions on here!

How ever do you work out he is a poor sod who can afford to risk/gamble on such things.
What goes around comes around,great karma for the greedy network and dealers,and the silly sods who pay overs.
As some have said,what do they look like now advertising new old models at these daft prices,only advantage is drawing people to there web sites as tyre kickers.

[Porsche911R]

Yellow491 said:

How ever do you work out he is a poor sod who can afford to risk/gamble on such things.
What goes around comes around,great karma for the greedy network and dealers,and the silly sods who pay overs.
As some have said,what do they look like now advertising new old models at these daft prices,only advantage is drawing people to there web sites as tyre kickers.

normal people have to pay overs sadly , it's the only way to get one.
I paid overs so am one of those silly sods.

And we are down to 7 manual winged GT3 for sale now, the nice red one sold, that's 3 in two weeks.
again not a bucket seated manual PCCB car for sale now !!

So demand is high for Porsche best :-p what ever the doom slayers think.

far better to have paid £20k overs on a GT3 than paying £400k for an LT which are now what £230k

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 20th December 10:05

[Yellow491]

Porsche911R said:

Yellow491 said:

How ever do you work out he is a poor sod who can afford to risk/gamble on such things.
What goes around comes around,great karma for the greedy network and dealers,and the silly sods who pay overs.
As some have said,what do they look like now advertising new old models at these daft prices,only advantage is drawing people to there web sites as tyre kickers.

normal people have to pay overs sadly , it's the only way to get one.
I paid overs so am one of those silly sods. You said it!

And we are down to 7 manual winged GT3 for sale now, the nice red one sold, that's 3 in two weeks.
again not a bucket seated manual PCCB car for sale now !!

So demand is high for Porsche best :-p what ever the doom slayers think.

far better to have paid £20k overs on a GT3 than paying £400k for an LT which are now what £230k

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 20th December 10:05

We have been here before,the car that sold for 230 was not a 400 car,and reasons why it was low,which is typical internet.
The new owner of that car is chuffed to bits with it,baragin of a lifetime and what value compared to a senna,as the lt will always be in the senna mirrors,unlike the gt3

[Porsche911R]

Yellow491 said:

We have been here before,the car that sold for 230 was not a 400 car,and reasons why it was low,which is typical internet.
The new owner of that car is chuffed to bits with it,baragin of a lifetime and what value compared to a senna,as the lt will always be in the senna mirrors,unlike the gt3

But Macca are dull automatics ! with no dealer network to back up growing sales !

I would rather be in some ones mirrors working hard to drive a car over winning at track days in automatics, but that's just me :-)

[Yellow491]

Porsche911R said:

Yellow491 said:

We have been here before,the car that sold for 230 was not a 400 car,and reasons why it was low,which is typical internet.
The new owner of that car is chuffed to bits with it,baragin of a lifetime and what value compared to a senna,as the lt will always be in the senna mirrors,unlike the gt3

But Macca are dull automatics ! with no dealer network to back up growing sales !
More crap you have read on the internet,nothing wrong with my dealers great service.

I would rather be in some ones mirrors working hard to drive a car over winning at track days in automatics, but that's just me :-)

Who mentioned winning at track days,you would not be in the mirrors on the road either in your slow lardy gt3.

[TDT]

Porsche911R said:

normal people have to pay overs sadly , it's the only way to get one.
I paid overs so am one of those silly sods.

And we are down to 7 manual winged GT3 for sale now, the nice red one sold, that's 3 in two weeks.
again not a bucket seated manual PCCB car for sale now !!

So demand is high for Porsche best :-p what ever the doom slayers think.

far better to have paid £20k overs on a GT3 than paying £400k for an LT which are now what £230k

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 20th December 10:05

Sat here in OPC Reading this morning and there is a GT Silver Manual 991.2 GT3 Comfort on Steels and 4000mls outside for £154K. I reckon its about 15-20K over.

Edited by TDT on Thursday 20th December 10:54

[Porsche911R]

Yellow491 said:

you would not be in the mirrors on the road either in your slow lardy gt3.

But I would be the one enjoying myself driving it, as I said, you like winning in Auto's down hanger straight ! I like driving manuals and coming last.

[Nuttcase]

Using the Paragon .1 RS with 8,000 miles @£150k as a reference floor (close to original list I think) and adding £1500 per thousand miles gets you to £162k. It's hard to value PTS, the list price in the US of PTS on a standard 911 shot up in 2017 to $11,430, not sure about current UK costs. However with the raft of milky washed out salmon pink aka. Lava orange RSs, it's not hard to see someone prepared to pay a high premium for a much better and more unique colour IMO! Up to £170k seems realistic, as someone already mentioned .2 are now just below £200k.

[franki68]

Porsche911R said:

Yellow491 said:

you would not be in the mirrors on the road either in your slow lardy gt3.

But I would be the one enjoying myself driving it, as I said, you like winning in Auto's down hanger straight ! I like driving manuals and coming last.

I’m sure your girlfriend/wife appreciates the last part of your post.

[Cheib]

Nuttcase said:

Using the Paragon .1 RS with 8,000 miles @£150k as a reference floor (close to original list I think) and adding £1500 per thousand miles gets you to £162k. It's hard to value PTS, the list price in the US of PTS on a standard 911 shot up in 2017 to $11,430, not sure about current UK costs. However with the raft of milky washed out salmon pink aka. Lava orange RSs, it's not hard to see someone prepared to pay a high premium for a much better and more unique colour IMO! Up to £170k seems realistic, as someone already mentioned .2 are now just below £200k.

Despite have a Lava Orange 991.2 GT3 I’d agree with your idea on value. Although I think in a market like this getting value for an option like PTS is much harder. People much happier to pay up for a “unicorn spec” car in a buoyant market.

[m33ufo]

I offered £190K on the Bolton car a few months ago - didn't even get a reply!

Have to say I'm a big fan of Mexico. I now have a GT8 in a similar shade.

[Purple Man]

Unfortunatley for us GT3 car owners, the days of big premiums are over.
Used .2 GT3's are in the list to 10K plus bracket. 135k to 145K bracket.
And GT3RS gen 1 are 145K to 160K (which makes it a tough call, a Gen 2 GT3 or a Gen 1 GT3RS at the same price?!?)
Gen 2 GT3RS 190K to 210K bracket.
There are of course a lot of different opinions, but cars that are selling have to be in that bracket.
I have said before the dealer offered to buy mine back at list about a month ago and the market has moved down since then.
If they come down a bit more I might buy a manual one for Christmas!!