996 Advice Appreciated
Discussion
After toying for a while with regards to buying my first Porsche I am seriously considering a 996. I have some questions I would really appreciate advice on. So thanks in advance for anyone that replies.
1: The price of 996's seems to be going below that of 993's. Is this correct or Am I just looking at the worng ones?
2: Does anyone have an idea of annual running cost based on about 10000miles a year.?/ I appreciate all cars differ but ball park examples would be good.
3: I understand if I have an official porsche inspection i can buy a warrent. How good is this warrently ie will a blown engine be replaced if not due to abuse? ALso can i buy this warrenty on a secondhand car that does not already have it??
4: Any good independants in the north west.
5: Haggling. I have only ever bought cars from new. What sort of discount would I realistacally expect on a £30K car ie what is seen as a sensible price to bid without appearing unreallistic??
Thanks so much for taking the time to read this. I cant wait to join the porker club.
1: The price of 996's seems to be going below that of 993's. Is this correct or Am I just looking at the worng ones?
2: Does anyone have an idea of annual running cost based on about 10000miles a year.?/ I appreciate all cars differ but ball park examples would be good.
3: I understand if I have an official porsche inspection i can buy a warrent. How good is this warrently ie will a blown engine be replaced if not due to abuse? ALso can i buy this warrenty on a secondhand car that does not already have it??
4: Any good independants in the north west.
5: Haggling. I have only ever bought cars from new. What sort of discount would I realistacally expect on a £30K car ie what is seen as a sensible price to bid without appearing unreallistic??
Thanks so much for taking the time to read this. I cant wait to join the porker club.
BliarOut said:
And anyone who's owned or driven both, what's the handling difference between a cab and a hard bodied 996?
Not much in it really.
The coupé obviosuly has the better of the two, but I was VERY impressed with the chassis on the Facelift Cab, i was expecting some degree of flex, but It just wasnt there... you can feel the extra weight of the cab tho... I would defo look at a Cab again.
I had 10 weeks use of a used 996 tt - wrote it off and the insurance company gave me what I paid for it.
Result - free use of a Turbo for 10weeks! Protected no claims, small excess.
New turbo arrives on Sat.!
(suppose if I keep on doing that 4 more times - if i survive - i will have a non depreciating 996tt for 1 year and a replacement at the end of it.
>> Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 17th May 15:13
Result - free use of a Turbo for 10weeks! Protected no claims, small excess.
New turbo arrives on Sat.!
(suppose if I keep on doing that 4 more times - if i survive - i will have a non depreciating 996tt for 1 year and a replacement at the end of it.
>> Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 17th May 15:13
newbie21 said:
1: The price of 996's seems to be going below that of 993's. Is this correct or Am I just looking at the worng ones?
That'll be correct - a bit of sentimentalism about it being the last of the air cooled and lower production numbers have kept 993 prices healthy. Some pretty uninformed scaremongering about the RMS issue has driven down 996 prices to an absurd low - its definitely bargain territory at the moment.
newbie21 said:
2: Does anyone have an idea of annual running cost based on about 10000miles a year.?/ I appreciate all cars differ but ball park examples would be good.
So many factors involved here - if you're lucky and only need petrol then work out your figures on around 25mpg to be on the safe side. Servicing/repairs at OPC:
Minor - £300
Major - £600
New Clutch - £900 fitted
Brakes all round - £900
Rear tyres (expect approx 15K miles) £400 a pair
Front tyres (hopefully 20K miles) £300 a pair
newbie21 said:
3: I understand if I have an official porsche inspection i can buy a warrent. How good is this warrently ie will a blown engine be replaced if not due to abuse? ALso can i buy this warrenty on a secondhand car that does not already have it??
Warranty is probably better than other after-market warranties, but doesn't cover everything. Fortunately it will cover a blown engine in your example above, so worth it for that alone IMHO. You can have the warranty put on a 2nd hand car, that's what the inspection is for...so long as it passes (or you fix whatever is wrong) and has full Porsche Service history then you should be ok.
JamieBeeston said:
And anyone who's owned or driven both, what's the handling difference between a cab and a hard bodied 996?
Not much in it really.
The coupé obviosuly has the better of the two, but I was VERY impressed with the chassis on the Facelift Cab, i was expecting some degree of flex, but It just wasnt there... you can feel the extra weight of the cab tho... I would defo look at a Cab again.
I did wonder after the sublime handling of my Boxster (Flame proof suit at the ready!), but that's put my mind at rest 
clubsport said:
Cheap running costs you have on your 996..25 mpg and rear tyres lasting 15k miles....is that you posting again Gran??
Only an opinion but you may not be getting the best out of such a car if consumables are lasting quite so long.
no, I get 8K out of rear tyres and 17mpg tops, but I ain't driving a normal 996. These figures were as quoted in one of those Porker mags a while ago. Depends on the tyre brand, I found Michelins lasted longer than most and should get up to 15K.clubsport said:
Cheap running costs you have on your 996..25 mpg and rear tyres lasting 15k miles....is that you posting again Gran??
Only an opinion but you may not be getting the best out of such a car if consumables are lasting quite so long.
Some 911 drivers are of the cerebral rather than the hooligan variety, i.e. the type who might be into lines and precision, which inevitably is going to be kinder on your consumables than the type who like to get the tail out at every opportunity.
I'm not sure I'd agree that anyone who goes through a set of rears in 5k is actually getting the most out of his 911. He might instead be one of the quicker guy on track - the one who takes his car to the limits of slip and slide, but not beyond.
Preferring 2wd 911 I try to drive as smooth as possible, but if you are keeping your car on the boil between 5000-6500 rpm on track you are going to return no more than 10mpg.
You could kill a set of tyres in an afternoon on an airfield, I personally think you need to do this at least once to truly understand what the car is capable of. I don't think these cars are that cheap for consumables personally even if you drive them enthusiastically rather than recklessly.
You could kill a set of tyres in an afternoon on an airfield, I personally think you need to do this at least once to truly understand what the car is capable of. I don't think these cars are that cheap for consumables personally even if you drive them enthusiastically rather than recklessly.
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