Porsche 911Turbo (85-89). Advice?
Porsche 911Turbo (85-89). Advice?
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advocatusdiaboli

Original Poster:

2,278 posts

258 months

Sunday 5th June 2005
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I am seriously considering dumping buying a 944 Turbo, and getting a 911 Turbo. 85-89 vintage... the 930's.

I saw one on the Strand the other day, just beautiful.

Is it a practical car?

Can I use it daily?

Terrible maintenance cost?

Any advice would be gladly taken!!!

I just want to know this: I will have only one car, is a 930 a smart choice. Social use only, no real commuting at all. Got a bike for that...

advocatusdiaboli

Original Poster:

2,278 posts

258 months

Sunday 5th June 2005
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Will this car potter to Tesco's, sit in snarling traffic and then blast down an A'road without making pay through the nose for it?

rubystone

11,254 posts

286 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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advocatusdiaboli said:
Will this car potter to Tesco's, sit in snarling traffic and then blast down an A'road without making pay through the nose for it?


IMHO, Yes. Off boost, the 4 speed can be a pain - you'll find yourself driving it everywhere in 3rd just to keep it on boost. The 5 speeds are fine in this respect.

I think that the 930 is the next "happening" car

fugatso

563 posts

259 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Definitely useable, I had a 1979 turbo which was used every day for the commute from warwick to central london for 6 months (bought a 964 turbo after that). Couple of tips heating system / primitive air-con is CR*P, demisting capability non exisistent,brakes need warming up, 4 speed on boost is hilarious and doesn't take too long to get used to. Watch those Imprezas melt. Also flames out of exhaust very good special effects at night

ultra violent

2,827 posts

296 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Fuel bills will be your biggest problem. Expect sub 10 MPG around town, 18mpg on motorway (off boost), and sub 5mpg if you are really giving it some....

Check, WUR, AUX air valve, cat if it has one, clutch...

Replace turbo with K27, add 1bar spring, set CO2 to around 3% and enjoy...

AdvocatusDiaboli

Original Poster:

2,278 posts

258 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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So really speaking, NOT an everyday car, and not one that you can safely keep as your only car!

Am I correct in assuming that? What a pity... I really wanted one.

Which year did the 5 speed gearbox incoporate itself into the mechanics?

Best example? Year? Price to pay?

ultra violent

2,827 posts

296 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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It really depends how you set the car up. If you plan to keep it for a while you may consider converting to EFI which can be done cost effectively if you want a cheap solution, or money no object (if you want ultimate performance). Both significantly improve fuel efficiency.

You can in the interim set the CO2 lean, but this limits the mods you can apply before going too lean...

rubystone

11,254 posts

286 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Are the fuel bills really that high for a standard car?

I'm pretty sure that 5 speed was only introduced on the last models in 1989, but something tells me that the SE versions from 1986 had the 5 speed too - can anyone else confirm that???

Cost-wise, anything from £15k to £30k for cars that are in good condition.


AdvocatusDiaboli

Original Poster:

2,278 posts

258 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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I intend to run my car as totally stock.

The only thing I would be interested in improving is the fuel effeciency

So what is the solution to this binge drinking!?

Any simple chipping solutions?

My passion for cars stretches to both form and function, but unfortunately my knowledge does not stretch to the mechanics! So, do keep it simple O' Yoda!

I think a 5 speed is a must...

clubsport

7,408 posts

285 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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There is one possible solution..dare I say it, if fuel economy is a huge concern.

You could get a 911 3.2 supersport 1986-89...basically these are a turbo bodied car with the normally aspirated carrera 3.2, 231 bhp engine...The downside is it handles and brakes slightly less well than a standard carrera 3.2. you should be able to get slightly north of 20 mpg in one of these,,,,if that is still too juicy I have heard good things about small french diesel hatches in terms of economy

advocatusdiaboli

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2,278 posts

258 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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There a 3.2 Supersport Cabrio on Autotrader at the moment. Looks nice, but I didn't know it had the exact same body!

Truth is, that if I don't go the way of a 944 Turbo, I will have high costs on anthing else methinks.

clubsport

7,408 posts

285 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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As with the late 930 Turbos..the Supersport is available on coupe, targa and cabriolet.....the targa is seen as the less desirable option pricewise.

timc930

56 posts

255 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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advocatusdiaboli said:
I am seriously considering dumping buying a 944 Turbo, and getting a 911 Turbo. 85-89 vintage... the 930's.

I saw one on the Strand the other day, just beautiful.

Is it a practical car?

Can I use it daily?

Terrible maintenance cost?

Any advice would be gladly taken!!!

I just want to know this: I will have only one car, is a 930 a smart choice. Social use only, no real commuting at all. Got a bike for that...



Practical - ummm - wouldn't recommend as a daily driver esp in the winter!

Maintenance - allow 2K+ on average with the ocassional 3K sting when things go wrong.

MPG - 16 to 20

5 speed box is smoother but the 4 sp is fine when you get used to it.

Huge smiles per miles even in stock form. try a 1 bar boast spring ;-)

Get it inspected before you buy. Prices from 15 to 25K. Have a contingency budget upfront to sort out any detail stuff/gremlins.

ENJOY.

supersport

4,602 posts

254 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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Had my Supersport for 3 weeks now, looks the absolute business

Fuel seems to be ok, I recon about 30mpg at a rough guess. Haven't really monstered it yet though.

S

clubsport

7,408 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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30mpg...seriously!!! maybe on a run at 50mph...
I would expect low 20's for average driving in the real world.

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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If budget is an issue simply DO NOT buy a turbo. I've just had a blowing exhaust and a small oil leak fixed, £4000. That's with one of my best mates owning the Specialist that did the work.

Get a 3.2 Carrera.

ultra violent

2,827 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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£4000 for a small leak and blowing exhaust???????

You can get a complete topend for £3000

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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ultra violent said:
£4000 for a small leak and blowing exhaust???????

You can get a complete topend for £3000


It escalated. Need two new heat exchangers, cross over pipe, then the wastegate broke...............

ultra violent

2,827 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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...Complete GHL Exhuast (headers) including all fitting bits and bobs $2250 + $150 shipping. That £1300 of todays rates...

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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ultra violent said:
...Complete GHL Exhuast (headers) including all fitting bits and bobs $2250 + $150 shipping. That £1300 of todays rates...


Sorry I neglected to mention it's a turbo II 3.6 X88 (385bhp out of the factory). The bits are dearer.