Warranty Renewal & Non-OEM Brake Discs
Discussion
jetbox said:
Yes, kind of... I had a 997 that I fitted Sebro discs too that passed the 111 point check.
But, I believe that sebro are the oem manufacturer which I purposely picked that make from ECP.
That's interesting, thank you.But, I believe that sebro are the oem manufacturer which I purposely picked that make from ECP.
I've got Sebro on the rears and they look OEM. I also can't remember seeing any markings on the OEM discs when I took them off so I'm not sure they'd even be able to tell the difference.
On the front however I've got Zimmerman and I think they look different. I'm therefore thinking if I go for the warranty extension I should possibly replace the fronts with OEM and risk the rears.
Mine didn’t. 987.2 Cayman S which the previous owner had bought as Approved Used from an OPC. So had been through the inspection before, and sold with two year warranty.
I came to renew the warranty, to be told great car but do you know it’s got non OEM discs, so it can’t pass the inspection, therefore no warranty. That will be £2k for discs and pads please.
My OPC did some digging, and found a note in Porsche central system that the technician who did the inspection before the Approved Used sale had identified non OEM discs then too. But they didn’t replace them, and sold it fully warranted.
I got in touch with Porsche GB, and after a lot of back and forth between them, my OPC and the OPC that sold the car with non OEM discs, the discs and pads were all replaced at the cost of the other OPC.
Sorry for the long reply, but no, mine was not allowed to pass with non OEM discs.
I came to renew the warranty, to be told great car but do you know it’s got non OEM discs, so it can’t pass the inspection, therefore no warranty. That will be £2k for discs and pads please.
My OPC did some digging, and found a note in Porsche central system that the technician who did the inspection before the Approved Used sale had identified non OEM discs then too. But they didn’t replace them, and sold it fully warranted.
I got in touch with Porsche GB, and after a lot of back and forth between them, my OPC and the OPC that sold the car with non OEM discs, the discs and pads were all replaced at the cost of the other OPC.
Sorry for the long reply, but no, mine was not allowed to pass with non OEM discs.
The warranty situation is an absolute scam - I have a 997.2 GTS with Bilstein front dampers; these are identical to OEM porsche dampers - they are literally the same part only difference is a tiny Porsche sticker/mark. Wanted to charge me £880 to swap my dampers for identical OEM ones - it’s simply a work generating scam !
Sick of OPC’s - get right on my t*ts !
Sick of OPC’s - get right on my t*ts !
It's not getting the warranty with non-OEM parts, it's what happens when you want to claim and they spot it then and blame your non-OEM parts for other failed parts.
Don't feel smug because you've "beaten" them and been allowed a warranty at some considerable expense. Instead be afraid what might happen if your fake part fails or causes a real one to fail. Wasted warranty money?
Don't feel smug because you've "beaten" them and been allowed a warranty at some considerable expense. Instead be afraid what might happen if your fake part fails or causes a real one to fail. Wasted warranty money?
DJMC said:
Instead be afraid what might happen if your fake part fails or causes a real one to fail. Wasted warranty money?
That is a fair comment if you were talking about engine / gearbox components, sensors, or even the battery at a push. It doesn’t really make sense when talking about brake discs or N rated tyres though, which are the things which mainly get picked up on during the check. Assuming they are decent quality their chance of failure is no more likely than OEM and it’s not really credible from an engineering perspective that they could cause other components to fail.
It also seems that Porsche seem far less bothered once the warranty is actually in place. I’ve had probably between £2000 and £3000 worth of warranty work done with my car in its current condition. (Non-oem front discs). It also wasn’t mentioned during the recent service.
I bet they’d pick it up for the warranty renewal check though...
If you have Sebro or Pagid discs fitted I would think you would get through an inspection most of the time as they look very similar to Porsche Genuine with the painted hubs and edges. Zimmerman or Brembo would be pretty obvious to spot.
Sebro are not what Porsche use. Porsche use SHW discs and if you look very closely their name/logo and the Porsche part number are on Genuine Porsche discs.
Sebro are not what Porsche use. Porsche use SHW discs and if you look very closely their name/logo and the Porsche part number are on Genuine Porsche discs.
I've been using Sebro for years. Porsche can not tell the difference. OPC charge you £1800 for discs and pads all round. Think via Eurocarparts when they have their black friday 50% off deals on got all this done with sebro/pagid for circa £500! No difference in performance or wear rates.
Armitage.Shanks said:
I getteh point about invalidating a claim is non-genuine parts found but a failed PCM on a car with non-genuine discs/pads is a leap of faith!
It depends on the exact wording of the extended warranty, which is basically an insurance product. If it says any non-standard parts would invalidate the entire warranty then you're stuffed. The manufacturer warranty on a new car is different, and the non-standard part has to be proven to have caused the failed part you're claiming for.I've not seen the exact wording of the extended warranty as I don't run one, but hopefully someone else can check.
Twinfan said:
Armitage.Shanks said:
I getteh point about invalidating a claim is non-genuine parts found but a failed PCM on a car with non-genuine discs/pads is a leap of faith!
It depends on the exact wording of the extended warranty, which is basically an insurance product. If it says any non-standard parts would invalidate the entire warranty then you're stuffed. The manufacturer warranty on a new car is different, and the non-standard part has to be proven to have caused the failed part you're claiming for.I've not seen the exact wording of the extended warranty as I don't run one, but hopefully someone else can check.
Seems to suggest the claim is invalid only to the extent the defect results from the non-genuine parts?
Armitage.Shanks said:
Your still stuffed if it fails the 111-point check because they find a non-genuine part. Rather than exlcude it from the extended warranty (ie the brake disc/pads) they could just decline to allow renewal I suspect.
Usually just shows up as a red light on the inspection sheet, and won't necessarily prohibit the warranty sale; that part will just be excluded.Lexington59 said:
Usually just shows up as a red light on the inspection sheet, and won't necessarily prohibit the warranty sale; that part will just be excluded.
That's not what folk on here have said - any non-standard parts = no extension. It does vary across OPCs though, some put cars through that they shouldn't by the strict letter of the law.Lexington59 said:
Usually just shows up as a red light on the inspection sheet, and won't necessarily prohibit the warranty sale; that part will just be excluded.
That's not how it works. Especially as the items that cause 99.9% of warranty renewal failures are already excluded from the warranty anyway. i.e. Tyres, Brakes and Battery.Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff