Porsche 993 RS Tribute thoughts?
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It looks lovely but personally I'd find it hard to look past the flood damage.
A visual 'RS tribute' like this (as opposed to something like Jackal's old build that includes the full works of what an RS entailed) should at least have had the headlight washers & the rear wiper removed. Looks a bit half-finished from the outside otherwise.
A visual 'RS tribute' like this (as opposed to something like Jackal's old build that includes the full works of what an RS entailed) should at least have had the headlight washers & the rear wiper removed. Looks a bit half-finished from the outside otherwise.
I realise that its 'modifications' don't go much beyond the aesthetic, but then the regular carrera is supposed to be quite the steer. Made better I'm sure by the RS suspension on this one..? In my opinion the genuine RS kit looks pretty badass. I'm a fan. The flood damage is concerning, but my logic is that if it occurred in 2007, any residual damage would have by now been addressed. At that price, in what looks to be good condition, it is quite tempting.
Edited by RJ95 on Tuesday 11th February 20:16
The differences in suspension hardware between a C2 and RS are considerable. This car seems to have had a damper change (oddly it appears only the fronts) which is basically an upgrade over standard. I think if you view this car as a slightly modified but essentially C2 you would be about right. Bear in mind that at the time of the damage, the cars valuve would have been considerably lower and hence it was an insurance loss. On current values it would probably been an unrecorded repair. The buyer new buyer would be benefitting from these circumstances. Its odd that there is so much stigma attached to past repairs on road cars. If they are done properly (and its relatively easy to check) it isnt an issue. Most older race cars are often pretty much 'triggers broom' but generally no one ever raises an eye lid.
Represents great buy if she sells within guide price. She will easily make £40k + inc buyers fees etc hence may as well buy a no stories cars like at 911v, Hairpin, Adrian Crawford, Paragon instead. They're circa £50k which is cheap IMO for no stories last of the line air cooled when leggy G50 Carrera 3.2 up for similar money.
This car has been in the classifieds for weeks and been on E bay, from what I recall it was up around £37,995 when advertised and was bid to around £33k on on E bay, so the previous selling attempts have not found a buyer.
However a live auction you often get buyers getting carried along by the competitive nature of live bidding so hopefully the owner secures a sale.
At the right price it would be a good car to use and enjoy and modify further.
However a live auction you often get buyers getting carried along by the competitive nature of live bidding so hopefully the owner secures a sale.
At the right price it would be a good car to use and enjoy and modify further.
Porsche911R said:
Steve Rance said:
If you are expecting a genuine RS recreation, this car will not be for you as it’s basically a C2 with an RS body kit. I think that you need to look at it through those eyes and decide if it’s good value on that basis. Looks a nice car though
C4 :-) !!!
Similar to my old Speed Yellow RS lookalike, which was factory ordered with the small spoiler kit, R ref too.
I had it lowered to RS on Bilstein and H&R springs and set up by the best in the business. It was superb to drive, I ran it both 2wd and 4wd and although I’m sure a real RS is better, this was bloody good!
Edited by LaurasOtherHalf on Wednesday 12th February 18:29
For:
Actually looks very pretty
One of the last narrow body 993s
Varioram, Manua,l Coupe, Sports Seats
Probably very useable
Against:
HPI Status
Not original
100k mls + deters 'collectability'
Ocean Blue/Light Grey very common on 993s and not the easiest combination to keep clean, if in regular use
As always, needs a qualified PPI and there are factors that will always restrict its value, but £30k seems attractive.
Actually looks very pretty
One of the last narrow body 993s
Varioram, Manua,l Coupe, Sports Seats
Probably very useable
Against:
HPI Status
Not original
100k mls + deters 'collectability'
Ocean Blue/Light Grey very common on 993s and not the easiest combination to keep clean, if in regular use
As always, needs a qualified PPI and there are factors that will always restrict its value, but £30k seems attractive.
Thank you all for your inputs!
The thinking would be that if the car sells for the lower estimate, it would provide incredible value considering today's 993 market. A 50k 993 is unobtainable for me. My dad used to have a 993 4s and the memory of the noise it made, interior smell, door clunk, and general sense of occasion when driving it is hard to shake off. Would any of you be concerned about the engine and it needing a potential engine rebuild? From what i've read 993's seem to be pretty bullet proof.
The thinking would be that if the car sells for the lower estimate, it would provide incredible value considering today's 993 market. A 50k 993 is unobtainable for me. My dad used to have a 993 4s and the memory of the noise it made, interior smell, door clunk, and general sense of occasion when driving it is hard to shake off. Would any of you be concerned about the engine and it needing a potential engine rebuild? From what i've read 993's seem to be pretty bullet proof.
Koln-RS said:
For:
Actually looks very pretty
One of the last narrow body 993s
Varioram, Manua,l Coupe, Sports Seats
Probably very useable
Against:
HPI Status
Not original
100k mls + deters 'collectability'
Ocean Blue/Light Grey very common on 993s and not the easiest combination to keep clean, if in regular use
As always, needs a qualified PPI and there are factors that will always restrict its value, but £30k seems attractive.
That's super helpful. The mileage is quite appealing (assuming it goes for £30k), as I wouldn't be scared to drive it. Actually looks very pretty
One of the last narrow body 993s
Varioram, Manua,l Coupe, Sports Seats
Probably very useable
Against:
HPI Status
Not original
100k mls + deters 'collectability'
Ocean Blue/Light Grey very common on 993s and not the easiest combination to keep clean, if in regular use
As always, needs a qualified PPI and there are factors that will always restrict its value, but £30k seems attractive.
Why do you say it needs a qualified PPI?
RJ95 said:
That's super helpful. The mileage is quite appealing (assuming it goes for £30k), as I wouldn't be scared to drive it.
Why do you say it needs a qualified PPI?
Because you need to be as certain as possible about the car's true condition in terms of potential mechanical and bodywork costs.Why do you say it needs a qualified PPI?
It may look outwardly enticing, but it is 23 years old, been round the World 4 times and was an HPI total loss, being sold at auction, and been on the market for a while (apparently).
You need to be reassured that there are no 'nasties' hidden away.
Koln-RS said:
Because you need to be as certain as possible about the car's true condition in terms of potential mechanical and bodywork costs.
It may look outwardly enticing, but it is 23 years old, been round the World 4 times and was an HPI total loss, being sold at auction, and been on the market for a while (apparently).
You need to be reassured that there are no 'nasties' hidden away.
Ah of course! I somehow mixed up PPI (Payment Protection Insurance) and Pre Purchase Inspection. It may look outwardly enticing, but it is 23 years old, been round the World 4 times and was an HPI total loss, being sold at auction, and been on the market for a while (apparently).
You need to be reassured that there are no 'nasties' hidden away.
I strongly agree with getting an inspection, no matter how much the car is..
There are a couple of privateer inspectors who know their 993, and it will be worth the £.. However disappointing it might be to walk away from one because it is "not right", you don't want to end up with a car that costs you as much as you paid for it within the first few months of ownership..
There are a couple of privateer inspectors who know their 993, and it will be worth the £.. However disappointing it might be to walk away from one because it is "not right", you don't want to end up with a car that costs you as much as you paid for it within the first few months of ownership..
Koln-RS said:
For:
Actually looks very pretty
One of the last narrow body 993s
Varioram, Manua,l Coupe, Sports Seats
Probably very useable
Against:
HPI Status
Not original
100k mls + deters 'collectability'
Ocean Blue/Light Grey very common on 993s and not the easiest combination to keep clean, if in regular use
As always, needs a qualified PPI and there are factors that will always restrict its value, but £30k seems attractive.
Agree with all that. If you want to RS it further then a C4 is a good base to start with. Alternatively if you want to take it back to standard, the wheels and the genuine RS kit are worth a few quid.Actually looks very pretty
One of the last narrow body 993s
Varioram, Manua,l Coupe, Sports Seats
Probably very useable
Against:
HPI Status
Not original
100k mls + deters 'collectability'
Ocean Blue/Light Grey very common on 993s and not the easiest combination to keep clean, if in regular use
As always, needs a qualified PPI and there are factors that will always restrict its value, but £30k seems attractive.
RJ95 said:
A 50k 993 is unobtainable for me.
Not quite sure what you mean by that - do you mean 50k miles, or £50,000? Assuming the latter, there are plenty of 993's for less than that, especially tips, cabs and Targas. If you want a non-S manual coupe for £50k your choice drops a bit, but there are still such cars out there. It is, after all, a buyer's market. RJ95 said:
Thank you all for your inputs!
Would any of you be concerned about the engine and it needing a potential engine rebuild? From what i've read 993's seem to be pretty bullet proof.
No. If its has a decent service history and it bit of TLC. Would any of you be concerned about the engine and it needing a potential engine rebuild? From what i've read 993's seem to be pretty bullet proof.
Over on 911UK there is a sticky that shows the members 993 and and mileage.;..... At least one on there is a daily driver and covered circ 250K .... without a rebuild.
My 993 has covered 155K miles, does'nt burn oil and is still on her original clutch.
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