More Polish comparisons..??
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I have used Autoglym Red for years, but although I get a good finish, sometimes find it hard to take off, and still have the swirly scratches.!
How does this compare to the Zymol/ Swissol products.?
I wanna do the car myself rather than pay someone to do it..
Where can you buy Zymol etc apart from just online.?
Appreciate any replies..
Rob
How does this compare to the Zymol/ Swissol products.?
I wanna do the car myself rather than pay someone to do it..
Where can you buy Zymol etc apart from just online.?
Appreciate any replies..
Rob
Never used Swissol, but It's probably as good as any.
Autoglym is not even in the same league as Zymol.
It's also worth remembering that the complete process ensures that the polishing you do, is protected by a sacraficial layer of wax.
I do mine regularly with Zymol, it can take all day from scratch each year, regular wax top ups take a couple of hours.
Straight lines for the prep and waxing, then no more swirls.
I have had my tub of wax (titanium) for 3 years, have about 1/4 left, but it does do 2 cars.
Cost is expensive at the outset, but after 3 years, amounts to little.
Have always bought mine online.
Only items I've had to purchase since the original wax, are one pot of HD clense, and One pot of Autobathe, I've also on a whim purchased the top up spray (name escapes me)
k.
>> Edited by warmfuzzies on Saturday 2nd July 17:13
Autoglym is not even in the same league as Zymol.
It's also worth remembering that the complete process ensures that the polishing you do, is protected by a sacraficial layer of wax.
I do mine regularly with Zymol, it can take all day from scratch each year, regular wax top ups take a couple of hours.
Straight lines for the prep and waxing, then no more swirls.
I have had my tub of wax (titanium) for 3 years, have about 1/4 left, but it does do 2 cars.
Cost is expensive at the outset, but after 3 years, amounts to little.
Have always bought mine online.
Only items I've had to purchase since the original wax, are one pot of HD clense, and One pot of Autobathe, I've also on a whim purchased the top up spray (name escapes me)
k.
>> Edited by warmfuzzies on Saturday 2nd July 17:13
Rob, Autoglym on a GT3 
these are the guys I get my Zymol from. Great service, quick reliable delivery etc. www.vertar.com/
If you have been using Autogylm, which is not a real 'wax'.
Would advise that you do the full 'number'
Start with 'Lehm Klay' bar, will remove all old polish, surface imperfactions, and swirl marks (especially on your dark colour). Then 'HD Cleanse', a mild cutting agent. Then you are ready to use the wax. Would suggest 'Glassur' - developed for Porsche (or so they claim
)
To apply you melt it in your hands and then rub all over your P&J.
Make sure you wife is out and the neighbours can't see.
NURSE - CURTAINS PLEASE!
The whole process will take around 4 hours but what a great way to get to know your GT3 and those beautiful curves.
these are the guys I get my Zymol from. Great service, quick reliable delivery etc. www.vertar.com/
If you have been using Autogylm, which is not a real 'wax'.
Would advise that you do the full 'number'
Start with 'Lehm Klay' bar, will remove all old polish, surface imperfactions, and swirl marks (especially on your dark colour). Then 'HD Cleanse', a mild cutting agent. Then you are ready to use the wax. Would suggest 'Glassur' - developed for Porsche (or so they claim
) To apply you melt it in your hands and then rub all over your P&J.
Make sure you wife is out and the neighbours can't see.
NURSE - CURTAINS PLEASE!
The whole process will take around 4 hours but what a great way to get to know your GT3 and those beautiful curves.
I bought some Zymol products this week from www.premierbodyshops.co.uk quick delivery and post free
Tried zymol a long time ago but found the wax bit hard work - it has to be taken off while still 'wet'. So now i use zymol cleanse (smells lovely.. i knowi am weird!) and then use 911 wax from swissol which is supposed to be specillay prepared for porsche paint. Whatever .. it is easy to shine as you leave for 10 mins after doing one panel.
see the results at chatsworth tomorrow !
see the results at chatsworth tomorrow !
colinc2 said:
Tried zymol a long time ago but found the wax bit hard work - it has to be taken off while still 'wet'. So now i use zymol cleanse (smells lovely.. i knowi am weird!) and then use 911 wax from swissol which is supposed to be specillay prepared for porsche paint. Whatever .. it is easy to shine as you leave for 10 mins after doing one panel.
see the results at chatsworth tomorrow !
I was told by the swissol valeter to let the wax "bake" in the sun for 1 hour or so before buffing. Suppose to give a better finish/lust look. Normally, when i've applied the wax, I let it stand in the sun for an hour and then park it in the garage overnight(still with wax applied). Comes the weekend, 10 mins quick buffing to remove the wax and the car looks spanking new again! :-)
Another plus point for using swissol is the lack of wax dust during buffing.
I stopped at the Zymol display at Goodwood Festival of Speed last weekend and watched the guy demonstrate how to apply the carruba wax to one of the wings of a 968 C2.
He took some wax in his hand and rubbed it into his palms to warm it up, then applied in straight strokes onto car,almost massaging it into the contours.
He waited about 1 minute after applying and buffed up with a lint free cloth.
Must admit the results were stunning and I will be doing the same as GT3 Rob and buying some very soon.
One "Essex Bird" standing looking over my shoulder was not so impressed and moaned that "I bet he doesn't massage his wife as gently as that".
I replied that she probably wasn't as nice looking.....slap
Have fun y'all, polishing your porkers.
CGF993
He took some wax in his hand and rubbed it into his palms to warm it up, then applied in straight strokes onto car,almost massaging it into the contours.
He waited about 1 minute after applying and buffed up with a lint free cloth.
Must admit the results were stunning and I will be doing the same as GT3 Rob and buying some very soon.
One "Essex Bird" standing looking over my shoulder was not so impressed and moaned that "I bet he doesn't massage his wife as gently as that".
I replied that she probably wasn't as nice looking.....slap
Have fun y'all, polishing your porkers.
CGF993
GT3 ROB and everyone else
This is the process I would recommend for using the Zymol products.
Rinse down with cold water
Zymol Clear, wash with at least 2 buckets of water, one for all the normal parts, the other 4 the grimey area's i.e arches, wheels, sills. Try and wash everthing.
Zymol Lehm Kley, this will remove almost everything
Zymol HD-cleanse, do every panel at least twice.
Wax? If you can afford it I would choose Vintage every time, nothing else comes close. If not I would go for Titanium.
Total time to complete this process would be at 6hrs and more like 8-9 hrs.
Always work panel by panel, from washing to waxing.
Also everytime you finish a panel always stand back from the car and check to see if you have missed anything, from washing to waxing.
I would do this 1-2 a year
And then wash ever 2-4 weeks depending on use,garage, milage.
Washing really is easy, as all the dirt is sat on top of the protective wax.
Very important only to use Zymol products.
If anyone has got any more questions then please ask. Always happy to help.
This is the process I would recommend for using the Zymol products.
Rinse down with cold water
Zymol Clear, wash with at least 2 buckets of water, one for all the normal parts, the other 4 the grimey area's i.e arches, wheels, sills. Try and wash everthing.
Zymol Lehm Kley, this will remove almost everything
Zymol HD-cleanse, do every panel at least twice.
Wax? If you can afford it I would choose Vintage every time, nothing else comes close. If not I would go for Titanium.
Total time to complete this process would be at 6hrs and more like 8-9 hrs.
Always work panel by panel, from washing to waxing.
Also everytime you finish a panel always stand back from the car and check to see if you have missed anything, from washing to waxing.
I would do this 1-2 a year
And then wash ever 2-4 weeks depending on use,garage, milage.
Washing really is easy, as all the dirt is sat on top of the protective wax.
Very important only to use Zymol products.
If anyone has got any more questions then please ask. Always happy to help.
PD that will not get rid of the swirls.
Ok what you want to do is wash the car first using a good car shampoo or baby bath, does just as good a job at a fraction of the cost.
Next, to get rid of the swirls you will need something that is slightly abrasive. I use at the moment Autoglym Paint Restorer downside is that it creates a lot of chalk dust but it does work well. Have tried a Swissol product that worked very well and had no residue, but more expensive.
Now clay the car to remove any contaminents from the paint. You have to use a lubricating medium but do not get suckered into paying a lot of money for proprietery clay lubricants, a solution of car shampoo and water does the same job.
Application of wax. Depending on what wax you use will determine what pre-wax product to apply. With regard to what wax you should use, I recommend any high percentage carnauba hard wax. This is where things can get emotive. IMO there is a lot of bollox and spin about Porsche paint wax etc, yu are applying on top of an impervious clearcoat, so all the talk of nourishing oils and the such like is a way of parting with your money. Try some that friends use and see what you like best.
I personally prefer to apply by hand as I can feel the layer of wax being applied and how smooth it is as well as the coverage. Much more satisfying!
Here is a picture of the car as an example of what you can achieve. I will hold my hand up and say that this picture was taken after being done by a professional valeter using Swissol wax, but it then meant it wsa easier for me to keep in that condition. Something to think about if you are short of time.
Ok what you want to do is wash the car first using a good car shampoo or baby bath, does just as good a job at a fraction of the cost.
Next, to get rid of the swirls you will need something that is slightly abrasive. I use at the moment Autoglym Paint Restorer downside is that it creates a lot of chalk dust but it does work well. Have tried a Swissol product that worked very well and had no residue, but more expensive.
Now clay the car to remove any contaminents from the paint. You have to use a lubricating medium but do not get suckered into paying a lot of money for proprietery clay lubricants, a solution of car shampoo and water does the same job.
Application of wax. Depending on what wax you use will determine what pre-wax product to apply. With regard to what wax you should use, I recommend any high percentage carnauba hard wax. This is where things can get emotive. IMO there is a lot of bollox and spin about Porsche paint wax etc, yu are applying on top of an impervious clearcoat, so all the talk of nourishing oils and the such like is a way of parting with your money. Try some that friends use and see what you like best.
I personally prefer to apply by hand as I can feel the layer of wax being applied and how smooth it is as well as the coverage. Much more satisfying!
Here is a picture of the car as an example of what you can achieve. I will hold my hand up and say that this picture was taken after being done by a professional valeter using Swissol wax, but it then meant it wsa easier for me to keep in that condition. Something to think about if you are short of time.
I have recently gone down the Swissol route, as this is what the car had been done with when I got it. Since I have only had it a month, I just bunged another layer of wax on.
Used the Zuffenhausen, specially for Porsches, and it was dead easy to apply, no cacky dust like Auto-glym (have used that for years) and a breeze to buff up.
Best of all, when you wash it next time the flies and crap just comes off with a hose pipe, is amazing.
Judge for your selves, not bad for a 17 year old car (IMO)
Used the Zuffenhausen, specially for Porsches, and it was dead easy to apply, no cacky dust like Auto-glym (have used that for years) and a breeze to buff up.
Best of all, when you wash it next time the flies and crap just comes off with a hose pipe, is amazing.
Judge for your selves, not bad for a 17 year old car (IMO)
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