Porsche 993....were they ever 996 money or below £15k

[S8QUATTRO]

Just a question for the experts on Porsche, I know the 996 was down to like £7000 or £8000 a few years ago.

Was the 993 ever available for less than £15k and if so roughly when was this?

[williamp]

Perhaps at auction, but when I was looking, the 911SC were 10k, 964 at 12-18 and 993 started at 20 something and this was probably the chepest they have been.

I went for a 944 Turbo

[S8QUATTRO]

williamp said:

Perhaps at auction, but when I was looking, the 911SC were 10k, 964 at 12-18 and 993 started at 20 something and this was probably the chepest they have been.

I went for a 944 Turbo

I remember seeing the odd 968 from £6000 or £7000 a few years ago but never the 993.

[p4cks]

Even if they were, use the BoE inflation calculator and it'll make you feel a little better. These classics people talk about seldom rocket up in value and just creep up over the years.

993s obviously maybe the exception to the rule but 99% of 'classics' are the same price they've always been.

[Cheib]

They were about £20k early 2000’s. Couple of mates both bought Targa’s (yes I know) for early £20k’s. 993 C2S’s were £35k at about the same time. Sounds cheap but a 2.7RS could be yours for £55k in 2002.

I reckon a ropey tiptronic would have been £15k

[Cheib]

p4cks said:

993s obviously maybe the exception to the rule but 99% of 'classics' are the same price they've always been.

There isn’t a 911 that isn’t worth considerably more than it was worth 20 years ago....at least not one I can think of. They key time value of cars is not inflation but maintenance costs....my mate’s have owned their 993 Targa’s for nearly twenty years but I don’t think either thinks he’s made money...they’ve notionally more than doubled their money but they’ve both spent more than the car cost on maintenance.

Those are bottom end of the food chain though plenty of 911’s are worth considerably more than they were 20 years ago even taking into account healthy maintenance budgets and inflation.

Edited by Cheib on Saturday 2nd January 21:16

[Orangecurry]

Depends which model.

I started looking in about 2002, but didn't buy until 2008. It was a background task.

IIRC the bottom prices for tip ragtops with miles was 15k ish from say 2008 and then crept up. C2 from a dealer was mid-20k up to 30k for low miles?

Can't remember what the WB cars were - not my thang so I wasn't looking. Would have been a better investment but then that wasn't in my mind.

[S8QUATTRO]

Crazy car pricing.

I remember buying a couple of 1996 Audi S6 2.2 5 pots for £2000 and £2500 in probably 2010-2012. Similar cars are now £9k £10k.

But guess it’s irrelevant if we were buying to keep.

[supersport]

In 2004 when I bought my 3.2.

SC around 10K
3.2 13 - 15k
Supersport 18k
964 18k
964 RS 25k
964 Turbo around 25k
993 20k +
993 2 and 4S around 30-35K
993 turbo about 45k

[Wozy68]

C4ME said:

The simple answer is no.

The simple answer is yes..... they did exist though needed a bit/a lot of tlc and uber rare at that price. Most even higher mileage ones <100K miles were 20K plus. (this would be around 2010/12).

However I was offered one for £14995.00 in mid 2011. It was for sale at Porsche specialist Shirleys Garage in Meriden. If memory serves it was altogether, not hyper mileage, had all the books and stickers in the right places and had a decent history file but def wasn’t a concourse winner it also had oversized wheels on it that caught the arches at the rear when under compression on the test drive. This was a C2 manual coupe in Iris blue.

In the end I backed out (mainly because I wasn’t keen on Iris) and bought my present 993 C2 manual for £18K with 110K miles on the clock in Feb 2012 from a Specialist up North. She came with a full OPC history and was a two owner car and I have put 50K happy miles on her since. She was cheap purely because she’d topped the 100K barrier (which was what I wanted).

Back then a 50K mile C2 manual coupe garage queen generally was north of 25K. ....... most probs nearer £30K

Edited by Wozy68 on Sunday 3rd January 00:12

[Wilmslowboy]

I bought a 2 owner 993 4s manual coupe in 2008 for £17k
It had 140k miles (fish) but lived its whole life on the streets of south west London, so needed a bit of TLC.

There were a few similar non wide body cars for mid teens, and a man 2 coupe with half the miles could be had for around early £20s.

[Steve Rance]

Interestingly, and to add context, the 996GT3RS was £85k when it was released in 2003. A new RS is now circa £200k with some bells and whistles. Based on that, the price of base model C2 aircooled 993/964 cars have increased at a slightly higher rate with the big growth coming from the rare RS models.

[Wilmslowboy]

Steve Rance said:

Interestingly, and to add context, the 996GT3RS was £85k when it was released in 2003. A new RS is now circa £200k with some bells and whistles. Based on that, the price of base model C2 aircooled 993/964 cars have increased at a slightly higher rate with the big growth coming from the rare RS models.

...and at £85k they were struggling to sell them, yet at £200K buyers are queuing down the street.

[S8QUATTRO]

Another question then...

Does anyone know a person who has actually purchased a high priced 993? Or do we think most of them are still owned by people who have had them for years?

[Cheib]

S8QUATTRO said:

Another question then...

Does anyone know a person who has actually purchased a high priced 993? Or do we think most of them are still owned by people who have had them for years?

Unless there’s a massive conspiracy lots of 993’s have changed hands at current prices....I know someone who sold a 993 Turbo for north of £100k and I can think of a poster on here who recently bought one on CC for over £100k.

Without doubt 993’s fetch strong money....S’s in good condition are around £100k, Turbo’s significantly more and Turbo S’s something like £250k

[Orangecurry]

S8QUATTRO said:

Another question then...

Does anyone know a person who has actually purchased a high priced 993? Or do we think most of them are still owned by people who have had them for years?

I don't understand what you are asking?

The same low number of 993s have been for sale and sold since I started looking in 2002 - there's never been a huge number, nor a dearth, to affect prices at any particular time - prices have just slowly climbed, sometimes plateau'd. Even the Financial crash of 2008 had very little if no effect. I bought in early 2008 and the prices seemed to be unaffected.

They tend to be priced on mileage and condition, as they always have.

If you want a particular spec.m you may have to wait years, or one might appear as if by magic.

What is your actual question???

[S8QUATTRO]

Orangecurry said:

S8QUATTRO said:

Another question then...

Does anyone know a person who has actually purchased a high priced 993? Or do we think most of them are still owned by people who have had them for years?

I don't understand what you are asking?

The same low number of 993s have been for sale and sold since I started looking in 2002 - there's never been a huge number, nor a dearth, to affect prices at any particular time - prices have just slowly climbed, sometimes plateau'd. Even the Financial crash of 2008 had very little if no effect. I bought in early 2008 and the prices seemed to be unaffected.

They tend to be priced on mileage and condition, as they always have.

If you want a particular spec.m you may have to wait years, or one might appear as if by magic.

What is your actual question???

My question was basically are people actually buying them at the high prices? Or are most of them just up for sale but don’t actually change hands?

So had anyone on here purchased one at the recent prices or are most owners people who bought them years ago?

[Shnozz]

Orangecurry said:

Depends which model.

I started looking in about 2002, but didn't buy until 2008. It was a background task.

IIRC the bottom prices for tip ragtops with miles was 15k ish from say 2008 and then crept up. C2 from a dealer was mid-20k up to 30k for low miles?

Can't remember what the WB cars were - not my thang so I wasn't looking. Would have been a better investment but then that wasn't in my mind.

I think that’s about right. I remember when I bought a Porsche from Dovehouse cars in about 2008 that they had a tip 993 cab for about the same as I paid for my Boxster S so circa £18k?

[Orangecurry]

S8QUATTRO said:

My question was basically are people actually buying them at the high prices?

High? Do you mean current market value - market forces - all that stuff?

S8QUATTRO said:

So had anyone on here purchased one at the recent prices or are most owners people who bought them years ago?

Reading between the lines, yes they do sell for the market value at the time, they always have and IMO they always will. Sitting and hoping there'll be a massive fall is unlikely to be a good policy

Unless of course the madness of Brexit on top of the choices on our economy that our great leaders have taken over Covid mean that every classic car will be worthless in a few months time.

[Cheib]

Just found this on an old PH thread about 993 production numbers...surprised how many there were given values of cars like C2S and Turbo. About 250 of each came to the UK. Although I reckon a lot of those will be overseas by now. Although it does explain why there are always 993 Turbo’s on the market.