965 3.3 turbo vs 996 C2
965 3.3 turbo vs 996 C2
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ajhope

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806 posts

253 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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If you had in the region of £30k to spend, would you go for a mint low mileage 965 turbo or a 996 c2? Criteria is fun to drive as a second car (about 6000 miles per year) and just about comfortable enough to take on trips to Europe. I'm used to driving a Caterham, so that's the benchmark for comfort! This would be my first porker by the way, don't know if that makes a difference...Cheers!

Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

267 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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965 Turbo all the way.

Charisma! You're not using it as a daily driver and if you're used to a Cater-field it's unlikely you'll complain about the ride and petty things like practicality and it being "dated" (whatever that means!).

ajhope

Original Poster:

806 posts

253 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Those are good points, and well made! The only thing that's putting me off the 365 turbo is their reputation for trickly handling. I'll just have to remember to keep that turbo charger spinning!

Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Yes, well the handling is a legitimate concern. I didn't get one because of the lag.....

Jays1976

1 posts

253 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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I don't have a 965, although I would love one! I've driven a 996 C2 and I own a 964 C2, while the 996 is definitely quicker, the 964 is so much more fun to drive.

If I could afford it, the 965 would definitely get my money.

Jay

verysideways

10,268 posts

300 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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If you buy a 965 get the fuelling sorted out or you'll soon learn to dread the on/off nature of the standard set up. Colin (9m) can sort this out for you for £2k i think, thereabouts.

Alternatively, and especially since you are used to a Caterham, get a 964 RS! (Sorry Dom)

Much better resale (may lose less money, but will definitely be easier to sell) and i suspect more reliable also, certainly exciting, and probably less likely to bite than a 965 on boost (unless your name is Dom).

Possibility?

VS

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

269 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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There's an RS on pitonheads for sale at just £21K

tat

61 posts

256 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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If I were in your shoes I'd go for a 930, and save £5-10K against the price of a 965. Many people feel the 3.3 engine and the 964 body were not a comfortable match, and a lot of the 930's qualities were lost on the 965. Or if you really want to spend all your budget, the Ruf BTR at Eporsch would be hard to beat.

tat

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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I'd pick the turbo as an occasional driver. 996 for any other reason.

ultra violent

2,827 posts

297 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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If it is a fun car, then defo the Turbo for street use. If you want a track car then RS.

RS is a bad choice for mainly road use.

Fueling is not a £2000 issue. It is a £40 issue, but I would get it on the dyno check everything is ok.

ColinC2

36 posts

257 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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I went from a 965 (3.3) to a C2 a couple of years ago. I loved the look of the 965 since boy so had to try it. It was not for me. Could not get on with the on/off of the turbo nor the general twitchiness of the ride - the steery great though!
I too would consider the RS as an alternative and it can be driven on the road - just not every day.
If you worried about future value both the RS and the 965 will be better than the 996 inmho.
Have you thought about a 993 turbo (LHD for the money that you mention) ?

Look at this :- www.lhdporsche.com/clients/LHDPorsche/DisplayCar.asp?id=405&m=1&t=05072005123322

but i wouldnt look any further on that site or you might expand your budget a bit

wini

213 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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965 turbo is not very refined uses very old mechanical fueling & boost control(spring) not good on fuel consumption hot starts or part throttle etc Also if you want to modify for more power later the fuel system will limit you.The old carrera 3.2's have a much more advanced/modern fuel system.993tt is a much more advanced/refined car 964rs is a track car will wear you down on the roads also only 260bhp

ajhope

Original Poster:

806 posts

253 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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RS might not be too bad, the wife's only criteria after three years of the Caterham is that the car should have a roof, and doors! Resale value's pretty important to me. 930 might not be such a bad option I guess. If I've saved some money, I could even afford to fix it! Has anyone here owned a left hand drive car? I could be seriously tempted by a LHD 993 turbo!

wini

213 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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go for LHD TT you won't regret it!

tat

61 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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[quote]....... 930 might not be such a bad option I guess. If I've saved some money, I could even afford to fix it! Has anyone here owned a left hand drive car? ........![/quote]

I previously owned a LHD 930, and I seriously regret selling it. If you're lucky you may find a late 930 with the factory engine upgrade which became standard in the 3.3 965 (320HP - recognisable by the 4 exhaust outlets). I ran the 930 with a few bolt-on engine upgrades (intercooler, powerflow, 1 bar) which gave it 325HP. So not too difficult/expensive to get a bit more power out of it.

IMO if you get a good 930 and keep it in good shape you will not loose money on it. And it should cost less to run than a 965.

Good luck!
tat

ajhope

Original Poster:

806 posts

253 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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Thanks Tat, 930 is looking like a good way forward. 993 TT, if only I had the money! £35k getting a bit much

turbobloke

116,961 posts

288 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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ajhope said:
Thanks Tat, 930 is looking like a good way forward.
Do make sure you drive a couple of both - 930 and 965 - before taking the plunge

911addict

394 posts

246 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Interesting thread.

I've just been considering upgrading (from a 3.2). I drove a 996 (giant step from 3.2!) and found it too uninvolving.

I love the original 911's and was keen to go for a 930. the reason I didn't was:
1. The aircon is very old, and I was told not very good.
2. The steering, like the 3.2, is not power steering. Normally that's fine but you can't get round mini roundabouts so quickly!
3. As an everyday car I wanted slightly more modern suspension. Apparently the suspension is a big advance on the original.

I've just bought a 965 3.3...we'll see.