997 basically not a workable car in the frost!
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Is it just me? On a heavy frost day my 997 door locks will freeze. Worse; the windows freeze in the up position meaning when you open the door they cannot drop to enable me to re-shut them. I've tried squirting de-icer into the trim/window gap but that doesn't help. 10mins I had the car thawing today and still the windows wouldn't drop meaning I can't shut the door, so can't drive it and can't leave it!!!
Also, the 997 has always been prone to misting up - it must be well ventilated?? I guarantee it doesn't leak as after it had leaking internal door skins 4-5 years ago I'm pathological about checking. However, every cold/damp day it steams up like a b
d and even the a/c demister won't clear the screen in under 5 mins. Today it had ice on the inside of the windscreen!
Basically it took me 15 mins to get the car drivable this morning. I love my 911 but it's basically useless in a frost. Is this common to all 997s? Now I usually just drive the girlfriend's Z4 if there's a frost
Also, the 997 has always been prone to misting up - it must be well ventilated?? I guarantee it doesn't leak as after it had leaking internal door skins 4-5 years ago I'm pathological about checking. However, every cold/damp day it steams up like a b
d and even the a/c demister won't clear the screen in under 5 mins. Today it had ice on the inside of the windscreen!Basically it took me 15 mins to get the car drivable this morning. I love my 911 but it's basically useless in a frost. Is this common to all 997s? Now I usually just drive the girlfriend's Z4 if there's a frost
For the windows sticking it is easy, Gummi Pflege from Amazon on all the rubbers.
Misting up is normally moisture but I've given up on my wife's MX5 so we run a baby dehumidifier (desiccant one) on an extension lead. This A. keeps it dry & also because it puts out warm air mean it stays frost/ice free.
Misting up is normally moisture but I've given up on my wife's MX5 so we run a baby dehumidifier (desiccant one) on an extension lead. This A. keeps it dry & also because it puts out warm air mean it stays frost/ice free.
tr7v8 said:
For the windows sticking it is easy, Gummi Pflege from Amazon on all the rubbers.
Misting up is normally moisture but I've given up on my wife's MX5 so we run a baby dehumidifier (desiccant one) on an extension lead. This A. keeps it dry & also because it puts out warm air mean it stays frost/ice free.
Nice tip, thanksMisting up is normally moisture but I've given up on my wife's MX5 so we run a baby dehumidifier (desiccant one) on an extension lead. This A. keeps it dry & also because it puts out warm air mean it stays frost/ice free.
Sounds like you may have a bit of a leak, check the bottom of the door cards for damp at the bottom , the inner door water shields fail also check the drain holes are free in the bulk head as water can come in behind the pollen filter if they are blocked.
Had a few 997’s and run them all year round even in some bad winters, window drop does freeze up in avoidable
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Had a few 997’s and run them all year round even in some bad winters, window drop does freeze up in avoidable
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Sounds like you may have a bit of a leak, check the bottom of the door cards for damp at the bottom , the inner door water shields fail also check the drain holes are free in the bulk head as water can come in behind the pollen filter if they are blocked.
Had a few 997’s and run them all year round even in some bad winters, window drop does freeze up only way round it is de icer
Had a few 997’s and run them all year round even in some bad winters, window drop does freeze up only way round it is de icer
Just buy a couple of these or similar ....
moisture absorbing silica gel bags
Leave them under your seats, should be enough to stop any steaming up.
You sure your air con is working properly?
My 986 needed a regas and when it was low it misted up badly, but now working properly it sucks all the moisture out of the car nicely.
moisture absorbing silica gel bags
Leave them under your seats, should be enough to stop any steaming up.
You sure your air con is working properly?
My 986 needed a regas and when it was low it misted up badly, but now working properly it sucks all the moisture out of the car nicely.
I have a similar challenge with a 986 Boxster.
I now have a 'cap' type cover on it, with a dehumidifier and oil radiator in the footwell. Bloody thing leaks, breaks regulators and is generally a pain in the arse. Much as I love Porsches, I sometimes curse it and wish I'd bought a 124 Spider instead!
I now have a 'cap' type cover on it, with a dehumidifier and oil radiator in the footwell. Bloody thing leaks, breaks regulators and is generally a pain in the arse. Much as I love Porsches, I sometimes curse it and wish I'd bought a 124 Spider instead!
I broke a window regulator on my old 996 on an icy morning ... now I just pour tepid water over the window if they are frosted up and it works a treat. No it’s not going to make the window shatter - just use tepid/warm water and not boiling!
For the lock, I’ve found the old ways can still help - heat the top of the key with the gas ring / lighter and it will melt the inside if you can’t get the key in
For the lock, I’ve found the old ways can still help - heat the top of the key with the gas ring / lighter and it will melt the inside if you can’t get the key in
nebpor said:
I broke a window regulator on my old 996 on an icy morning ... now I just pour tepid water over the window if they are frosted up and it works a treat. No it’s not going to make the window shatter - just use tepid/warm water and not boiling!
For the lock, I’ve found the old ways can still help - heat the top of the key with the gas ring / lighter and it will melt the inside if you can’t get the key in
Which is all slightly ridiculous isnt it on a car with a RRP of 70k + back in the day....For the lock, I’ve found the old ways can still help - heat the top of the key with the gas ring / lighter and it will melt the inside if you can’t get the key in
nebpor said:
I broke a window regulator on my old 996 on an icy morning ... now I just pour tepid water over the window if they are frosted up and it works a treat. No it’s not going to make the window shatter - just use tepid/warm water and not boiling!
For the lock, I’ve found the old ways can still help - heat the top of the key with the gas ring / lighter and it will melt the inside if you can’t get the key in
are you saying that tepid water on the window before opening the door prevents the window from jamming as it would had the window been full of ice?For the lock, I’ve found the old ways can still help - heat the top of the key with the gas ring / lighter and it will melt the inside if you can’t get the key in
I really don't want to spend £500 on fixing this problem again so keen to do everything to avoid breaking it again.
PushedDover said:
Which is all slightly ridiculous isnt it on a car with a RRP of 70k + back in the day....
I’m not sure any car with frameless doors is any better though - my old Merc 300CE also did it, albeit it was from 1988 ;-)But yes - I know what you mean. Must be much worse in the Nordics where they get much colder weather than us!
MrJuice said:
are you saying that tepid water on the window before opening the door prevents the window from jamming as it would had the window been full of ice?
I really don't want to spend £500 on fixing this problem again so keen to do everything to avoid breaking it again.
Yes, for me it’s about trying to loosen things up with warm water before attempting to open the door - it’s always worked for me but your mileage may vary, as they say ...! I’ve been doing it most mornings on my 996turbo just now as well - it’s not suffering from bad internal condensation like my old 996 though ... I think the seals must be better on the 996.2 possibly I really don't want to spend £500 on fixing this problem again so keen to do everything to avoid breaking it again.
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