Buying cars with over 100k miles
Buying cars with over 100k miles
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vixen1700

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28,632 posts

297 months

Thursday 14th July 2005
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There are lots of 964s on the market with over 100k miles on the clock, and maybe soon I'll be in the market for a 964 (can't stretch to a 993), but call me a bit old fashioned but parting with say £18,000 for a car that's gone round the clock fills me with a little fear.

With an OPC or good independent history file are these cars still going to feel tight, and above all not starting to require major expense?

I'm sure you can fill me with reassurance, due to the quality & design of these cars, or maybe it's just a psychological thing.

There was a 3.2 Clubsport with well over 300,000 miles in a magazine a few months ago, which seemed a great car, so put me at ease and say I'll be alright with buying a car with a 6 figure mileage. :)

It'll be my first Porsche, so I don't want a money pit.

verysideways

10,268 posts

299 months

Thursday 14th July 2005
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If you buy a 130k mile 964 that's been well looked after and has had a top end rebuild with 993 head bolts and a replacement dual mass flywheel at some point in its life (almost guaranteed, since all 964's are over 10 years old now) then you should be fine.

As has been said so many times, and please don't think i'm being patronising, but buy on condition.

If you don't have EVERY confidence, get it inspected by a well respected specialist. It'll be the best hundred quid you ever spent.

VS

Good luck, and post pics as soon as you have one!

danww

6,914 posts

257 months

Thursday 14th July 2005
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verysideways said:
As has been said so many times, and please don't think i'm being patronising, but buy on condition.

VS

Good luck, and post pics as soon as you have one!


VS is obviously correct, BUT, expect to really notice it on re-sale. Even if the car itself is great, and carrying its miles lightly, it WILL affect its value.

So don't ignore the mileage just make sure you pay a fair price for it.

leosayer

7,764 posts

271 months

Thursday 14th July 2005
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A good service history doesn't stop bits from wearing out (eg engine, transmission, suspension) or from perishing through age (eg hydraulics, rubber pipes and hoses, belts) or from simple failure (eg electrics).

You'll need plenty of spare cash for big bills that will inevitably arise (regardless of mileage) if you want to keep you new purchase 'tight'.

I'd much rather own a well sorted 120,000 miler than a worn-out 60,000 miler (and I'd expect to pay roughly the same).

vixen1700

Original Poster:

28,632 posts

297 months

Thursday 14th July 2005
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Cheers for the advice, it's just what I'd thought really. Henry's site is the one I look at most and probably have the most trust in, so when the time comes I'll probably go there, and obviously not ask the mileage over the phone.

rubystone

11,254 posts

286 months

Thursday 14th July 2005
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Does a 130,000 mile 964 really command £18,000 these days?

warmfuzzies

4,355 posts

280 months

Thursday 14th July 2005
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Probably not that price for a 134k from a private sale, but may well from a dealer.

I was offered 16k for mine trade in, it has 101k on the clock, no top end rebuild, I don't reckon it needs one, nor does anyone else I've talked to.

As has been said before, buy on condition, get a PPI, and check the history for work done,


kevin.

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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I bought my first 964 in 99 for £23k with 106,000 on the clock. I had it until 133,000 and the only issue I had other than general service work was a rear wheel bearing which was < £300. It went like an absolute train. If only my 2000 mile 997 was as reliable

Forget mileage on old Porsches, they built them properly in those days.

mcswerve

23 posts

262 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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My 1990 C4 has 160,000 on the clock and it still drive’s like a dream.

Some issues since purchasing, but nothing too painfull.

mickyveloce

1,035 posts

263 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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mileage is a falacy on cars like these . The only reason to buy low mileage is with resale in mind although I read an article in Porsche Post a while ago about a 911 clubsport (1987/8) with 330,000 miles on which served as a daily driver . The 964 appears to go through an "expensive phase" with things like oil leaks and flywheels to remedy although a careful buy after you`ve done your homework will pay off . Once ran a mark 2 GTi Golf with 220000 miles although my 924 Carrera has been standing too long before I bought it and has improved dramatically since the Spring and a bit of proper use .

sprint355

1,332 posts

254 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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Buy on condition see pic on profile for a prime example of a 100k lovely, the're out there. It only took 6 months to find. Best of luck and post a pic when you buy.

james_j

3,996 posts

282 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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911 & Porsche World did an article a few months ago about a 993 C2 and a 993 C2S, each of which had done about 175,000 miles without much having been done to them apart from routine maintenance.

POORCARDEALER

8,659 posts

268 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Fact is its much easier to sell a 60K miler than 100K miler, but people have to be realistic as the youngest 964 is now well over 10 years old........if I am buying 964s with around 100K miles on them I want evidence of top end rebuild, I know not all need it but I am not prepared to chance it.........best driving 964 I ever owned had done 162K miles....

s2art

18,942 posts

280 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Mine did 240K (bought at 10k), new flywheel, couple of clutches, oil pipes, was all that needed doing. If its been looked after, 100K is nothing. Just resale value to worry about, so keep it ten years and who cares?