997.2 turbo.
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jason61c

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5,978 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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realising a gt3 will now just be too expensive(for me).

I've been looking at a turbo, manual.

this looks like a lovely spec

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12063386

9 previous owners.... is that 'too many'?

Would it be a money pit? I not expecting the value of it to go up, however would I be loosing more than £4k per year if doing circa 3-5000 miles a year?

guyvert1

2,144 posts

263 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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Thats a lovely 'rare' manual 997.2 Turbo, but in current times you're paying strong money for that mileage.

As you've mentioned, dont think you'll lose too much over a few years, running costs are fairly good for what the car can do, standard servicing is every 2 years.

Not as exciting to drive as a GT3 but much more usuable everyday, depends on what you're using it for.

Edited by guyvert1 on Saturday 11th September 14:12

jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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It’s got an amazing spec. I can’t find a cost sheet anywhere for the options though?

Yes, 997.2 manual with centre locks must be rare

Koln-RS

4,068 posts

233 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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It’s expensive, but from a reputable dealer.

I actually found the 997 Turbos quite dull. Fast, but less engaging than NA.

However, the ones I drove were Tip and PDK, and always thought the Manual gearbox would make a better and more involving car. But, quite rare, I would have thought?

CallThatMusic

2,860 posts

109 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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I’ve a Gen 1.5 manual and they’re not ( in my view ) too expensive to run provided they’ve been serviced properly and maintained as they should be…

g7jhp

7,022 posts

259 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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The 997.2 turbo has the 3.8 DFI engine rather than the 3.6 Mezger engine in the 997.1 turbo.

I believe there are questions on the reliability of the newer 3.8 DFI engine.

I'm sure someone more experienced will comment.

jason61c

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5,978 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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from what I've read, it basically an evolution of the previous, however with oil improvements made. its not 'weaker' in any way.

Slippydiff

15,899 posts

244 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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It's a clean sheet design with no parts carried over from the turbocharged Mezger engine. It has proven to be a very reliable powerplant.

IMI A on here will be able to tell you what, if any its shortcoming's are, as he knows what Ken at 9E has to do to them to extract big horsepower numbers from them reliably.

Chubbyross

4,808 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th September 2021
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I have a .2 PDK cabriolet. It’s a fabulous car but can throw up enormous bills come service time. This year I had a £4.5k bill for turbo refurb. Two years ago I replaced all condensers and hoses, disks and pads. The full service cost that year was approximately £5k. Prior to that the previous services were roughly £1.5k every two years.

Some years you get lucky on these cars, other services can cost a huge amount. You need to have a deep war chest to keep them in top condition. Find a good independent who understands the cars.

I bought mine around five years ago for £70k. It’s worth about £50-£55k now. It was on 34k miles when I took ownership and is now on 60k. I have no idea if the prices have bottomed out yet. I suspect they’ll still continue to fall as the 996 Turbos are a lot less than the 997s.

I do understand some of the criticisms that they’re boring to drive as they do everything just so well. I find that the power is so great that I struggle to find many places now where you can use it all. Put your foot down and you’re in triple figures in second. I tend to use mine more as a GT car. It’s fabulous for long distances but can feel a little heavy on b-roads. I’ve recently bought a 987S for those.

All in all, it’s a stunning car and one that I just can’t seem to let go, despite me thinking every year I’m going to sell it and find something new.

If you do take the plunge I recommend visiting Centre Gravity for a full geo set up. They transformed the feeling of the steering and handling. Oh, and start putting money aside each year for the big bills when they come.

David W.

1,946 posts

230 months

Sunday 12th September 2021
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I had one for a year or so, fab cars and as has been said 3 figures before you can blink, not sure how they shove the fuel in quick enough to do that. For me it needed the plug and play PASM control box from 9e to take the harsh edge off the suspension to make it a comfortable enough for touring
I am however back in a NA 4S now.