997GTS Manual to Ferrari FF to 991.2GT3 ? Am I mad?
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Got a very significant birthday in a couple of weeks and thinking of treating myself. I've had the GTS for 10 years and have loved every minute. The market for them seems crazy atm with the recent Hexagon car up at £83k and OPCs asking >£70k for PDKs. I really want a 991.2 GT3 manual, but can't bring myself to pay a £30k+ premium for a 4 year old car. So, I keep reading that the Ferrari FF is going to be the next Ferrari to increase in price and they do look pretty special and an awful lot of car for the money.
My man maths says sell the 997 (How to achieve best price though? Via CC, SOR, outright sale?), bank the profit into a FF for a couple of years while it appreciates and then move to 991 GT3 when they suffer a market correction.
Great in principle - thoughts? An yone who'se had an FF got any thoughts on how they drive, running costs, things to look out for?
All views welcome!
My man maths says sell the 997 (How to achieve best price though? Via CC, SOR, outright sale?), bank the profit into a FF for a couple of years while it appreciates and then move to 991 GT3 when they suffer a market correction.
Great in principle - thoughts? An yone who'se had an FF got any thoughts on how they drive, running costs, things to look out for?
All views welcome!
I’ve got a manual 997 GTS and a manual 991.2 GT3….always loved the idea of a V12 Ferrari but nor been there yet. Only driven one V12 Ferrari which was an 812 GTS…wasn’t a great test drive to be honest as it was at an event and mostly on a dual carriageway.
Re FF I just don’t think you should buy a relatively modern V12 Ferrari as the “next one to appreciate”…they are generally hat depreciate but yes the world is different right now. It might hold value/appreciate in the short term but I think once production gets back to normal levels I wouldn’t want to own one as an asset I thought my money was safe in. 18 months ago Ferrari resduals were in a bad way across the board with lots of unhappy customers and lots of cars for sale at dealers.
Re GTS vs GT3 the biggest single difference is the engine it totally dominates the experience in the GT3 and is on a totally different level to the engine in the GTS. GTS is a great road car though and has an awful lot of positives going for it.
Re FF I just don’t think you should buy a relatively modern V12 Ferrari as the “next one to appreciate”…they are generally hat depreciate but yes the world is different right now. It might hold value/appreciate in the short term but I think once production gets back to normal levels I wouldn’t want to own one as an asset I thought my money was safe in. 18 months ago Ferrari resduals were in a bad way across the board with lots of unhappy customers and lots of cars for sale at dealers.
Re GTS vs GT3 the biggest single difference is the engine it totally dominates the experience in the GT3 and is on a totally different level to the engine in the GTS. GTS is a great road car though and has an awful lot of positives going for it.
If your GTS is a manual you are quids in. If with buckets too, you have entered the twilight zone where any price is possible.
If a PDK, and subject to the full spec, you'll have to take a dive against what is currently on sale, as PDK GTS's hang around for months, if not years. Some have been for sale for two years since when I was first looking. So you may have to go WBAC or OPC for selling it, which is no bad thing.
The 997 GTS is revered to be better than the Turbo and GTs of its model range, its the ultimate sweet spot. You might miss it, but life it too short to drive the same car forever. Good luck with the sale and Ferrari purchase.
If a PDK, and subject to the full spec, you'll have to take a dive against what is currently on sale, as PDK GTS's hang around for months, if not years. Some have been for sale for two years since when I was first looking. So you may have to go WBAC or OPC for selling it, which is no bad thing.
The 997 GTS is revered to be better than the Turbo and GTs of its model range, its the ultimate sweet spot. You might miss it, but life it too short to drive the same car forever. Good luck with the sale and Ferrari purchase.
julian987R said:
If your GTS is a manual you are quids in. If with buckets too, you have entered the twilight zone where any price is possible.
If a PDK, and subject to the full spec, you'll have to take a dive against what is currently on sale, as PDK GTS's hang around for months, if not years. Some have been for sale for two years since when I was first looking. So you may have to go WBAC or OPC for selling it, which is no bad thing.
The 997 GTS is revered to be better than the Turbo and GTs of its model range, its the ultimate sweet spot. You might miss it, but life it too short to drive the same car forever. Good luck with the sale and Ferrari purchase.
997 GTS better than a 997 GT3. If a PDK, and subject to the full spec, you'll have to take a dive against what is currently on sale, as PDK GTS's hang around for months, if not years. Some have been for sale for two years since when I was first looking. So you may have to go WBAC or OPC for selling it, which is no bad thing.
The 997 GTS is revered to be better than the Turbo and GTs of its model range, its the ultimate sweet spot. You might miss it, but life it too short to drive the same car forever. Good luck with the sale and Ferrari purchase.
..come on, stop getting baited... Back on track...
To OP, I'd say go for it, any reason not too?
You've had the GTS for 10years, the hunt for something else must be irresistable.
Get out now, sell to a dealer if you can get a good deal, then spend the next few months in pure heaven tracking down your next toy with the lolly to splash...
To OP, I'd say go for it, any reason not too?
You've had the GTS for 10years, the hunt for something else must be irresistable.
Get out now, sell to a dealer if you can get a good deal, then spend the next few months in pure heaven tracking down your next toy with the lolly to splash...
julian987R said:
MrVert said:
julian987R said:
g7jhp said:
997 GTS better than a 997 GT3.
Yep, don't just take my word for it. 
pretty sure it was a DriveTribe article, but perhaps on reflection an overstatement.
Cheib said:
julian987R said:
MrVert said:
julian987R said:
g7jhp said:
997 GTS better than a 997 GT3.
Yep, don't just take my word for it. pretty sure it was a DriveTribe article, but perhaps on reflection an overstatement.
As I get older, the ‘less is more’ mantra is growing stronger in me…probably why I still have an S1 Elise…
I would still rate a 997 GT3 above a GTS though…must be a weight thing….I do like a light car
julian987R said:
pretty sure it was a DriveTribe article, but perhaps on reflection an overstatement.
I’ll await a proper magazine review (which you won’t find) or someone who has owned both
What next? A BMW 330 is better than an M3? Honestly there is some rubbish spouted by certain individuals on PH.
Edited by shantybeater on Tuesday 19th October 11:15
ky glass ball thinking. MrVert said:
Cheib said:
julian987R said:
MrVert said:
julian987R said:
g7jhp said:
997 GTS better than a 997 GT3.
Yep, don't just take my word for it. pretty sure it was a DriveTribe article, but perhaps on reflection an overstatement.
As I get older, the ‘less is more’ mantra is growing stronger in me…probably why I still have an S1 Elise…
I would still rate a 997 GT3 above a GTS though…must be a weight thing….I do like a light car
Thanks for all the replies so far. Not too too far further forward in my thinking! I get it's not an economic/investment decision, and I guess 1 dealer margin is a softer hit than 2 (unless both FF and GT3 markets move in my favour)
Just been out for a B road blast in the GTS (manuel btw), and come back home thinking "how much more than that will I ever need". Hmm - this notion might just be itchy feet and maybe I should just get out and drive the GTS more.
Just been out for a B road blast in the GTS (manuel btw), and come back home thinking "how much more than that will I ever need". Hmm - this notion might just be itchy feet and maybe I should just get out and drive the GTS more.
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