caymen, PASM, Chrono?
caymen, PASM, Chrono?
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jpierst

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8 posts

261 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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I am just specing up a cayman, being new to the porsche world can anyone tell me the true value of certian options - having PASM or/and Sports chrono.

Does the PASM normal setting give you a better ride than standard?

Also when put the chrono pack on and change the suspension, how much difference does it make

Any thoughts apprecaited

thanks

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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If you want to take it on track I'd go for the PASM & Sports chrono.

On the 997 PASMs hard setting is considered too hard for road usage, so if thats all you plan maybe don't bother.

Of course no ones driven a cayman yet so it may not be the same.

McP

2,352 posts

280 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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Autocar this week tested an AMV8 against a 997 C2S (Porsche GB press car by the looks of it) fitted with the sports chassis (20mm lower compared to standard) rather than the PASM. Are there any posters here who can give a view on the above choice?

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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One of the Porsche specialist fawn mags had that setup on test and they hated it. Too hard for anything but track and they pointed out that residual value will probably be poor since its going to be trounced by the 997 GT3 most likely.

Think I'd avoid as the latter is a very good point - it falls between two stools.

Adam B

29,638 posts

281 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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jpierst said:

Does the PASM normal setting give you a better ride than standard?


yes which is why I would consider speccing it. I have driven a loaded 987S which is near a damnit a Cayman S and was impressed with PASM. In sports it was a hard but not unbearably so on the 19"s (similar to a 986 on 18"s and sports suspension) but on normal it was defo smoother than my 986S with 18" and std susp - so great for motorways and high streets.

sports chrono is a toy unless you are a regular tracker, appart from the dodgy looking timer clock it just retards PSM a little (you could just turn it off) and increases throttle response (put you foot down a little harder!) so not worht the cash IMHO.

surprised someone drove a 997S w/o PASM as PASM is standard on the S - did Porsche especially remove it?

gteditor

34 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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When you opt for the Sports chassis kit (20mm lower, LSD) the factory ditches the PASM for shorter and stiffer springs and dampers.

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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You can't turn PASM off fully though, it still intervenes under some circumstances if its there. (I think it intervenes when it detects a slide and you lift the throttle to apply the brake). Does the sports chrono fully disable it perhaps?

willr

363 posts

280 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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DanH said:

You can't turn PASM off fully though, it still intervenes under some circumstances if its there. (I think it intervenes when it detects a slide and you lift the throttle to apply the brake). Does the sports chrono fully disable it perhaps?


You mean PSM, not PASM?
PSM will intervene under braking, even if you have turned it off.

Sport Chrono allows more slide before PSM cuts in.

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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willr said:

DanH said:

You can't turn PASM off fully though, it still intervenes under some circumstances if its there. (I think it intervenes when it detects a slide and you lift the throttle to apply the brake). Does the sports chrono fully disable it perhaps?



You mean PSM, not PASM?
PSM will intervene under braking, even if you have turned it off.

Sport Chrono allows more slide before PSM cuts in.


Oops yeah I mean PSM. Sorry was distracted when I was posting and the acronyms are beginning to overlap

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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Can only talk about Sport Chrono and PASM on the 997, but I'm sure the application and effects will be similar.

I think sport chrono is a must, and I believe you get PASM with it for free. It all comes down to cost, if PASM was £500 and seperate then it would be worth not spec'ing. It's of no use at all on the road, and it makes the front end really nervous on anything, but the smoothest of tarmac. I NEVER use it on the road, and my supplying dealer recommended it for track use only. Other owners I've spoken to say the same, it's just not nice.

It would be handy if you could change the defaults on the car, because everytime I fire it up I press SPORT on (which engages PASM), then PASM off, and leave it like that in all situations other than when making a phone call on a motorway to cut the sports exhaust.

Adam B

29,638 posts

281 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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gteditor said:
When you opt for the Sports chassis kit (20mm lower, LSD) the factory ditches the PASM for shorter and stiffer springs and dampers.


ouch so you pay £500+ for sports suspension and they remove £1k worth of options

or do you get a refund