Porsche Ordered to Continue Supplying Parts to UK Reseller
Porsche Ordered to Continue Supplying Parts to UK Reseller
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Glassman

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231 months

Yesterday (15:09)
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Competition Appeal Tribunal has granted interim relief to spare-parts retailer Eurospares after the German carmaker halted supplies:

https://www.catribunal.org.uk/cases/17325725-euros...

Porsche unlawfully shut out Eurospares, parts supplier tells UK judge.

https://iclg.com/news/22889-porsche-ordered-to-con...

If I'm reading this correctly, authorised dealers cannot sell parts to resellers not involved in repair or servicing?

Slippydiff

15,635 posts

239 months

Yesterday (15:32)
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Design 911 have been having the same issue with Porsche AG/Porsche GB for the past 8-10 months.

Panamax

6,482 posts

50 months

Yesterday (15:45)
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So-called Selective Distribution arrangements always involve restrictions on who people are allowed to sell to. This is permitted because the legal system understands that luxury brands (perfumes, champagne, handbags) would, lose their brand value if they were available from every street trader instead of only from "authorised outlets". Car manufacturers are able to have Selective Distribution arrangements in order to protect the financial viability of official parts and service support for customers who've spent a lot of money on a new car and don't want to find there are no parts available or there's nowhere to get the car fixed.

The basic position is that parts are sold by Porsche only to (a) car owners, or (b) garages who are going to fix somebody's car.

Eurospares doesn't own cars and doesn't fix cars - it's just a re-seller of car parts. Hence the argument, because Porsche thinks that's damaging its business.

Where Porsche GB tripped up was supplying parts to Eurospares for a long time and then trying to change their mind. The so-called Interim Injunction is a temporary court order which prevents Porsche from stopping supply pending a full hearing of Porsche's case. Whether Porsche will want to continue to pursue the case is another matter.

Glassman

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Yesterday (15:47)
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Panamax said:
So-called Selective Distribution arrangements always involve restrictions on who people are allowed to sell to. This is permitted because the legal system understands that luxury brands (perfumes, champagne, handbags) would, lose their brand value if they were available from every street trader instead of only from "authorised outlets". Car manufacturers are able to have Selective Distribution arrangements in order to protect the financial viability of official parts and service support for customers who've spent a lot of money on a new car and don't want to find there are no parts available or there's nowhere to get the car fixed.

The basic position is that parts are sold by Porsche only to (a) car owners, or (b) garages who are going to fix somebody's car.

Eurospares doesn't own cars and doesn't fix cars - it's just a re-seller of car parts. Hence the argument, because Porsche thinks that's damaging its business.

Where Porsche GB tripped up was supplying parts to Eurospares for a long time and then trying to change their mind. The so-called Interim Injunction is a temporary court order which prevents Porsche from stopping supply pending a full hearing of Porsche's case. Whether Porsche will want to continue to pursue the case is another matter.
Would the reseller potentially have been selling them cheaper than retail?

elan362

203 posts

53 months

Yesterday (17:19)
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Glassman said:
Would the reseller potentially have been selling them cheaper than retail?
D911 is often more expensive than buying direct from the OPC Parts department

Glassman

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231 months

Yesterday (17:37)
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elan362 said:
Glassman said:
Would the reseller potentially have been selling them cheaper than retail?
D911 is often more expensive than buying direct from the OPC Parts department
Can't understand why anyone would buy genuine from a reseller... Unless there's a discount to be had.

Panamax

6,482 posts

50 months

Yesterday (17:40)
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Glassman said:
Would the reseller potentially have been selling them cheaper than retail?
I don't know but I suspect it's one aspect of the issue. Eurospares will have been buying with the benefit of a hefty "trade discount" and it's possible they were then re-selling below Porsche's own prices.

Glassman

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231 months

Yesterday (17:44)
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Panamax said:
Glassman said:
Would the reseller potentially have been selling them cheaper than retail?
I don't know but I suspect it's one aspect of the issue. Eurospares will have been buying with the benefit of a hefty "trade discount" and it's possible they were then re-selling below Porsche's own prices.
I'm guessing a reseller could benefit from a big discount. Let's say 25-30% (or even more). They could then list at retail and offer discount incentives. Even if it's 10% they still profit. Porsche won't do the same. There's a retail price and one for trade.

M138

604 posts

7 months

Yesterday (18:19)
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Ferrari, Maserati and Lamborghini don’t seem to have an issue with Eurospares selling their parts.

FarQue

2,339 posts

214 months

Yesterday (18:53)
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My understanding is that OPC's themselves have been banned from selling (offloading?) NOS items (new old stock) via eBay this year.

Where the re-sellers 'win' is their '24/7' online presence for mail-order - Desing911 may be a little more expensive than an OPC on o.e. parts but more than one Porsche specialist I deal with enjoys being able to order from home, in the middle of the night (say), when he or she may have forgotten something during 'office hours'. There are also some re-sellers who have built relationships with customers who just can't 'get on' with their OPC's parts department for whatever reason.

FriedMarsBar

479 posts

48 months

Glassman said:
Can't understand why anyone would buy genuine from a reseller... Unless there's a discount to be had.
I've used them despite being more expensive as they deliver whereas I need to drive to my OPC

blueg33

41,704 posts

240 months

Eurospares make it easy to find the part you need, they present the parts and prices online in a way that is much more accessible than going via a dealer. (That’s my experience with them for Ferrari parts)

The parts diagrams are very useful.

CanAm

11,433 posts

288 months

Glassman said:
Would the reseller potentially have been selling them cheaper than retail?
I can’t vouch for everything but the few genuine parts I’ve needed have been the same price from Design 911.