Would a GT3 or GT4 RS hit the mark?
Would a GT3 or GT4 RS hit the mark?
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BlackR8

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487 posts

94 months

Hi All,

Was hoping to get some views and opinions from those of you who have been in a similar position. I have been fortunate enough to own a number of exotic cars such as Audi R8 (only the V8 but gated manual!!), 911 Turbo, Ferrari F430, Gallardo LP560, McLarens etc.

I will be looking to get my next car in the coming weeks/months and decided that it needs to be a N/A engine'd car. From the various cars owned, I have learnt the ones I enjoyed the most were the N/A cars. I have never owned or driven a GT product Porsche, and the GT3 or GT4 RS models in particular have always been intriguing.

I don't track my cars, and only use them on extended sunny/dry weekend drives out. My usual list of requirements is that as it is strictly a weekend toy, it has to through a combination of its looks, presence, sound and drive feel special and a sense of occasion every time I take it out. My budget will probably be around £110-115k so I am thinking if I am patient and wait a few weeks till winter I should be able to get into either a private buy 991.1 GT3 RS, a GT4 RS (WS), or perhaps a 991.2 GT3 (although I prefer the more aggressive styling of the RS cars - in order to hit the looks/presence requirement!).

My question to others that have been in a similar situation where you have owned more traditional supercar or exotic brands, when making the switch to a Porsche GT product how has the experience been for you? I have no doubt they are just as capable and arguable even more so, but given I don't touch the edges of the potential performance of most of the cars I have owned given I don't track them, do they still feel as special or give that real sense of occasion when walking upto, sitting in and then driving, in the same way you get when doing so in the usual thoroughbred supercar suspects like a McLaren/Ferrari/Lamborghini etc?

RSbandit

2,959 posts

149 months

I’m about to swap out of my AM DBSS into a 992 GT3 manual. First Porsche for me and it was a case of a massive itch needing a scratch…I can’t tell you how much I enjoyed the test drive I had in the car. The engine in these is masterful and a true joy to behold. I preferred the looks of the GT3 over the 4RS and having spoken to other people the general consensus was the 4RS is brilliant but too loud inside given where the intakes are positioned. I have a 675LT Spider as well and I’m pretty sure the GT3 is going to give me as much enjoyment just because it’s a totally different proposition. Also the more advanced tech in the 992 was another important factor. I hope to take it on track too so it’ll be getting used as intended.

Grosscmg

62 posts

66 months

Evening, good choices! I was similar to you, my first “Supercar” was a 991 gt3 which I regretfully sold and bought a McLaren & Ferrari over a 3 year period. I always regretted selling the GT car and went back into one nearly 2 years ago (991.1 gt3rs) and absolutely love it! The raw sound and mechanical feel you just don’t get with Ferrari or McLaren in my opinion. Mines just gone on the market due to house renovations frown I will buy another though in a couple of years.

MDL111

8,104 posts

194 months

To me the Ferraris feel more special and more of a sense of occasion car than the RS Porsches. my Porsche was more fun to drive on the road though, largely due to the manual transmission. I usually picked the Ferrari keys for the special feeling and the Porsche ones to get my manual fix and for the more race car feel of the car. Never owned a McLaren so can’t opine on those. Those cars were a 997 RS and a Scuderia, so not modern versions of the brands. I did sell the Scuderia and still regret it to this day - was a stupid decision.

Hedgeman

706 posts

248 months

Yesterday (09:37)
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I have never owned a Mclaren or Ferrari, but have a 992 Turbo S, an R8 v10+ and 718 Spyder RS in the stable currently.

For me the RS, hands down, is best to drive and has the biggest sense of occasion. But utimately this is such a personal thing, only you can decide.

This post is relevant and well worth reading.

BlackTails

1,850 posts

72 months

Yesterday (09:46)
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BlackR8 said:
I don't track my cars, and only use them on extended sunny/dry weekend drives out.
This sentence stands out to me. I had a similar GT itch and went for a vanilla/cooking (by comparison to what you’re considering) 981 GT4 clubsport. Plenty of occasion and theatre with the buckets, harnesses and cage; exquisite gearshift and pedal weights; otherworldly grip.

But it’s really a track car that can be used on the road, rather than a road car that can be used on track if you see what I mean. Over time the noise (great in the early stages of ownership) and harsh ride (great on a smooth surface) became wearing and ultimately not that enjoyable.

It’s was certainly a box worth ticking, and I don’t regret buying it. But I don’t regret selling it either.

RSbandit

2,959 posts

149 months

Yesterday (10:19)
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Hedgeman said:
I have never owned a Mclaren or Ferrari, but have a 992 Turbo S, an R8 v10+ and 718 Spyder RS in the stable currently.

For me the RS, hands down, is best to drive and has the biggest sense of occasion. But utimately this is such a personal thing, only you can decide.

This post is relevant and well worth reading.
Really like the Spyder RS, great looking car if it had the manual option I’d have seriously considered one ….how do you find the roof?

Hedgeman

706 posts

248 months

Yesterday (10:39)
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RSbandit said:
Really like the Spyder RS, great looking car if it had the manual option I d have seriously considered one .how do you find the roof?
I like my manuals too, but the engine and close ratio gearing really suits the PDK gearbox, definitely don't be put off. The roof is an easy job with 2 people, probably about 3 minutes. Solo it's a faff, particularly rolling it correctly so it's tight and no creases for stowage. But all that said, if I ever had to downsize my car collection, other than keeping a practical vehicle out of necessity, this would be last to go. I will never voluntarily sell it.

BlackR8

Original Poster:

487 posts

94 months

Yesterday (15:20)
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Thanks all, very useful input. From my experience I found that the more capable or all rounder a car was the less exciting it was actually to drive on the public roads unless there was something else that made it still feel special and enjoyable. For example the McLarens were amazingly capable but that made them a bit 'too good' unless doing crazy speeds if that makes sense, and the engine/exhaust character was not a patch on say the N/A Ferrari or Lamborghini, but it was actually the looks and the drama with the doors going up etc that made up for that sense of occasion requirement.

Given I have never tried or owned a GT it might be just a case of a itch that just needs to be scratched, like has been the scenario for many others that have commented.

I am leaning towards a GT4 RS as my logic is that everything that probably makes it impractical for the road (deafening noise, hard suspension etc), will probably be what makes it feel different/special for that 1 day a week blast on a Sunday morning. My slight apprehension is that the looks/presence and that intangible feeling the true supercar brands give you won't be the same but I am hoping the drive itself will make up for this. Almost the opposite of my experience with the McLarens.

bennno

14,294 posts

286 months

Yesterday (15:25)
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BlackR8 said:
Thanks all, very useful input. From my experience I found that the more capable or all rounder a car was the less exciting it was actually to drive on the public roads unless there was something else that made it still feel special and enjoyable. For example the McLarens were amazingly capable but that made them a bit 'too good' unless doing crazy speeds if that makes sense, and the engine/exhaust character was not a patch on say the N/A Ferrari or Lamborghini, but it was actually the looks and the drama with the doors going up etc that made up for that sense of occasion requirement.

Given I have never tried or owned a GT it might be just a case of a itch that just needs to be scratched, like has been the scenario for many others that have commented.

I am leaning towards a GT4 RS as my logic is that everything that probably makes it impractical for the road (deafening noise, hard suspension etc), will probably be what makes it feel different/special for that 1 day a week blast on a Sunday morning. My slight apprehension is that the looks/presence and that intangible feeling the true supercar brands give you won't be the same but I am hoping the drive itself will make up for this. Almost the opposite of my experience with the McLarens.
Just go and drive one.

Having had porsche, ferrari, McLaren then i'd strongly suggest trying a Vantage 4.0 - with its Mercedes V8 it's an absolutely mental car for a Sunday thrash.

There are some very good Spyder RS and GT4RS deals about, but id wait till January when they will be 10-15% lower....

modeller

506 posts

183 months

Yesterday (20:51)
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Spyder is two cars in one - roof off / on.
The smaller size of the cayster platform is viewed by many as a plus.
The SRS is softer vs GT4RS which might be a plus.

Cheib

24,596 posts

192 months

Yesterday (22:42)
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RSbandit said:
Really like the Spyder RS, great looking car if it had the manual option I d have seriously considered one .how do you find the roof?
For me it would be Spyder RS or 991.2 GT3. Both great cars.

Given your use I wouldn’t give the roof on the Spyder a second thought, I think as an owner you’d get used to it fairly quickly.

I’ve owned a manual 9991.2 GT3 since new…nothing that’s come out since has really improved on it. They’re awesome cars. The engine is a masterpiece and it’s only in the 991.2 that it was produced without a GPF (early 991.2 RS’s were also pre GPF)