Discount at OPC and hybrid battery queries
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Hi, I’d love any advice you can offer on the points below.
Discount/freebies
I’m test driving a Cayenne with an OPC on Monday and wanted to ask what sort of discounts or freebies people usually get on a used car with a value of c£50k.
The car is a 2019 with 42k miles and last serviced in Feb 24 with 27k miles recorded at the time. It’s a base hybrid Cayenne but does have a high spec.
A major(?) service is due in Feb 26 so they will obviously service the car prior to the sale. A 2 year warranty is obviously also included.
The car has just arrived in stock and is going through the prep process so they may choose to wait to get the max sale value rather than off a big (or any) discount. But it’s near the end of the year and the quarter so timing may be on my side?
Is it pointless ask for thousands off? Or how much should I expect the car to be discounted?
What’s should they include in the service given the age and mileage? (I thought every N years the transmission fluids and some others were changed regardless of mileage?)
What’s the min tyre tread I should accept? I know OPC have their own rules but what should I expect as a minimum? 5mm all round?
What accessories do you ask for as freebies?
I’ve been told Porsche don’t offer service packages and haven’t seen them offered but wanted to ask if this is true.
What accessories are particularly useful with a Cayenne?
Hybrid battery
Has anyone had issues or are there any known issues with this generation of the hybrid battery/system?
If the car is under warranty which Porsche, is the hybrid battery also covered head to toe?
Are there any battery/hybrid specific questions I should ask or be aware of?
Is there anything else I should be asking or checking?
Thanks in advance.
Discount/freebies
I’m test driving a Cayenne with an OPC on Monday and wanted to ask what sort of discounts or freebies people usually get on a used car with a value of c£50k.
The car is a 2019 with 42k miles and last serviced in Feb 24 with 27k miles recorded at the time. It’s a base hybrid Cayenne but does have a high spec.
A major(?) service is due in Feb 26 so they will obviously service the car prior to the sale. A 2 year warranty is obviously also included.
The car has just arrived in stock and is going through the prep process so they may choose to wait to get the max sale value rather than off a big (or any) discount. But it’s near the end of the year and the quarter so timing may be on my side?
Is it pointless ask for thousands off? Or how much should I expect the car to be discounted?
What’s should they include in the service given the age and mileage? (I thought every N years the transmission fluids and some others were changed regardless of mileage?)
What’s the min tyre tread I should accept? I know OPC have their own rules but what should I expect as a minimum? 5mm all round?
What accessories do you ask for as freebies?
I’ve been told Porsche don’t offer service packages and haven’t seen them offered but wanted to ask if this is true.
What accessories are particularly useful with a Cayenne?
Hybrid battery
Has anyone had issues or are there any known issues with this generation of the hybrid battery/system?
If the car is under warranty which Porsche, is the hybrid battery also covered head to toe?
Are there any battery/hybrid specific questions I should ask or be aware of?
Is there anything else I should be asking or checking?
Thanks in advance.
I've extracted this from their website directly so not 100% in case some of these are standard equipment?
Exterior
Panoramic roof system
Roof rails painted in black (high-gloss)
SportDesign front apron
Exterior package Black (high-gloss)
Electric towbar
Transmission / Chassis
Adaptive air suspension with levelling system and height adjustment incl. Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
Rear-axle steering including Power steering Plus
Sports tailpipes in black
Sport Chrono Package including mode switch and compass display on the dashboard
Power steering Plus
Wheels
21-inch RS Spyder design wheels incl. wheel arch extension in exterior colour
Interior
Heated windscreen
4-zone climate control
Ambient lighting
Comfort seats front (14-way, electric) with memory package
Seat heating (front and rear)
Side airbags in the rear
Heated steering wheel
Electric roll-up sunblind for rear side windows
Loadspace management system
Smoker package
Interior Leather
Porsche Crest on headrests (front)
Audio / Comm.
BOSE® Surround Sound-System
Six-disc CD/DVD autochanger
E-Mobility
7.2kW AC on-board charger
Supply cable for blue industrial electrical outlet (230V, 32 A, 3 Pin)
Lighting and vision
LED main headlights in black, including Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
Automatically dimming exterior and interior mirrors
Thermally and noise insulated glass incl. privacy glass
Comfort and assistance systems
ParkAssist (front and rear) including Surround View
Adaptive Cruise Control incl. Lane Keep Assist with Traffic Sign Recognition
Head-Up Display
Night View Assist
Comfort Access
Soft-close doors
The plan is to keep the car 3-4 years. It'll be predominatly for my wife and she does mostly local miles with the occassional drive across London.
I'm not fussed about MPG. Just looking for something that's a high spec. The only nice to have which is missing in this car (IMO) is the sports exhaust.
Happy to consider a GTS or S. Doesn't have to be a hybrid. Don't want the previous generation car though. Nothing wrong with it. Just personal preference.
Are there any for sale I've missed with a high spec at this price irrespectve of model designation?
Exterior
Panoramic roof system
Roof rails painted in black (high-gloss)
SportDesign front apron
Exterior package Black (high-gloss)
Electric towbar
Transmission / Chassis
Adaptive air suspension with levelling system and height adjustment incl. Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
Rear-axle steering including Power steering Plus
Sports tailpipes in black
Sport Chrono Package including mode switch and compass display on the dashboard
Power steering Plus
Wheels
21-inch RS Spyder design wheels incl. wheel arch extension in exterior colour
Interior
Heated windscreen
4-zone climate control
Ambient lighting
Comfort seats front (14-way, electric) with memory package
Seat heating (front and rear)
Side airbags in the rear
Heated steering wheel
Electric roll-up sunblind for rear side windows
Loadspace management system
Smoker package
Interior Leather
Porsche Crest on headrests (front)
Audio / Comm.
BOSE® Surround Sound-System
Six-disc CD/DVD autochanger
E-Mobility
7.2kW AC on-board charger
Supply cable for blue industrial electrical outlet (230V, 32 A, 3 Pin)
Lighting and vision
LED main headlights in black, including Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
Automatically dimming exterior and interior mirrors
Thermally and noise insulated glass incl. privacy glass
Comfort and assistance systems
ParkAssist (front and rear) including Surround View
Adaptive Cruise Control incl. Lane Keep Assist with Traffic Sign Recognition
Head-Up Display
Night View Assist
Comfort Access
Soft-close doors
The plan is to keep the car 3-4 years. It'll be predominatly for my wife and she does mostly local miles with the occassional drive across London.
I'm not fussed about MPG. Just looking for something that's a high spec. The only nice to have which is missing in this car (IMO) is the sports exhaust.
Happy to consider a GTS or S. Doesn't have to be a hybrid. Don't want the previous generation car though. Nothing wrong with it. Just personal preference.
Are there any for sale I've missed with a high spec at this price irrespectve of model designation?
Edited by aporschefan on Sunday 21st December 12:33
Having bought a Porsche this week I would say discounts depend entirely on whether the garage wants to do a deal - I looked at 3 cars and discounts ranged from £500 - £3,000 on circa £100k but all the cars I looked at were reasonably priced (in main dealer terms) and the value of my trade in varied by £7k...
I think if you are flexible about the exact car and are able to move quickly then you should be able to get some discount
What I did notice was that the longer the dealer had the car in stock for the more prepared they were to do a deal (you can look this up on autotrader if the car is listed there)
good luck
I think if you are flexible about the exact car and are able to move quickly then you should be able to get some discount
What I did notice was that the longer the dealer had the car in stock for the more prepared they were to do a deal (you can look this up on autotrader if the car is listed there)
good luck
Realistically the OPC probably has about £10k of margin in the sale, we are nearly at the end of Q3 so worth pushing for something.
If the vehicle has been in stock for a while that helps as they want to keep having fresh stock, if the vehicle is fresh stock then they are less likely to negotiate.
Still Porsche generally is having a tough time so who knows.
You maybe better off looking for freebies such as a PEC experience than a cash discount, alternatively rather than pay cash, take the finance for a discount and pay it off asap as this gives the sales person their commission.
If the vehicle has been in stock for a while that helps as they want to keep having fresh stock, if the vehicle is fresh stock then they are less likely to negotiate.
Still Porsche generally is having a tough time so who knows.
You maybe better off looking for freebies such as a PEC experience than a cash discount, alternatively rather than pay cash, take the finance for a discount and pay it off asap as this gives the sales person their commission.
I bought a 23 plate Cayenne hybrid in August this year, very similar spec to the one you are looking at. I think it was well over £90K new. I got £2K off but that was just after they reduced it by £5K from the initial listed price. So there are decent discounts to be had. That was from Porsche Silverstone. The cheeky monkeys tried to reduce the extra warranty to 1 year instead of 2 but I spotted that and the paperwork was all corrected eventually. Like you I was not really fussed about what model it actually was but I need to tow 3500Kgs regularly and the factory fit bar was non negotiable. It s actually a really nice car and I have no regrets at all. When Mrs BigM is driving it averages 35MPG which isn t bad for a massive tank. We already have all the home charging infrastructure so it s a doddle to keep it topped up with electrons. Mine was VAT qualifying and as I bought it through my business as a business vehicle that was another important consideration.
Edited by bigmowley on Sunday 21st December 13:42
aporschefan said:
Hi, I d love any advice you can offer on the points below.
Discount/freebies
I m test driving a Cayenne with an OPC on Monday and wanted to ask what sort of discounts or freebies people usually get on a used car with a value of c£50k.
What s should they include in the service given the age and mileage? (I thought every N years the transmission fluids and some others were changed regardless of mileage?)
What s the min tyre tread I should accept? I know OPC have their own rules but what should I expect as a minimum? 5mm all round?
What accessories do you ask for as freebies?
I ve been told Porsche don t offer service packages and haven t seen them offered but wanted to ask if this is true.
Most questions already answered but:Discount/freebies
I m test driving a Cayenne with an OPC on Monday and wanted to ask what sort of discounts or freebies people usually get on a used car with a value of c£50k.
What s should they include in the service given the age and mileage? (I thought every N years the transmission fluids and some others were changed regardless of mileage?)
What s the min tyre tread I should accept? I know OPC have their own rules but what should I expect as a minimum? 5mm all round?
What accessories do you ask for as freebies?
I ve been told Porsche don t offer service packages and haven t seen them offered but wanted to ask if this is true.
- freebies more likely than discounts, these are low cost to dealer but high(er) value to you
- just get the service schedule and see what else has been done. And yes, all servicing has a time element, including fluid changes (gearbox), sparkplugs and brake fluid
- 3mm should be the minimum, even though MOT is 1.6mm. I dont think a dealer is going to do anything if the car has 5mm
- I've seen on here that some Northern dealers offer a service pack but the price is basically the cost of the minor + major service / 48 months
Inbox said:
Realistically the OPC probably has about £10k of margin in the sale, we are nearly at the end of Q3 so worth pushing for something.
What you have to remember is out of that £10k is the warranty (let's say £2k) prep work for sale (lets say £1000 plus anything that may need doing such as a service, tyres, brakes, paintwork etc) so that alone could equate to roughly £5k so their margin drops quite significantly. You could be cheeky and ask for some money off but don't be too put off when they say no or the discount isn't what you expect. If you were buying new then I'd expect a hefty discount given Porsche's current state. Used stock... not so much.I always ask for a full tank of fuel, flowers for 'er in doors and something from the Porsche shop such as a jacket or an overnight bag. They can 'hide' items like that rather than take a hit on their profits.
You sure you want the Hybrid?
I would definitely drive both and see what you think. Also, drive a base Cayenne over the S too.
I just think the base Cayenne is the best of the bunch, the power delivery just suits the car so well.
Also, £50,000 for a car that is coming up to 7 years old? Just be a bit carful, in 4 years it will be 11 years old, the Hybrids tend to be considerably cheaper than the non Hybrids as they get older.
I looked at a 2014 Hyrbid earlier in the year, only reason was it was 70k mile car for £10k, which seemed incredible value, there were loads around that £10-12k mark. Same age no hybrids were still £18-25k or so. Big difference.
Maybe it will be different with the newer Hybrid, but considering you're asking about discounts suggests that you are not wanting to lose £10,000 a year over the next 4 years, and I think you might.
Porsche just offered us £28,400 for our 2019 base Cayenne, which my old man now has, which we bought 2 years and 8 months ago from OPC for £48k with 39k miles on it, now got 60k.
Great car and decided it would be silly to sell it, so will stick another years warranty on it in April.
I would definitely think this through.
I would definitely drive both and see what you think. Also, drive a base Cayenne over the S too.
I just think the base Cayenne is the best of the bunch, the power delivery just suits the car so well.
Also, £50,000 for a car that is coming up to 7 years old? Just be a bit carful, in 4 years it will be 11 years old, the Hybrids tend to be considerably cheaper than the non Hybrids as they get older.
I looked at a 2014 Hyrbid earlier in the year, only reason was it was 70k mile car for £10k, which seemed incredible value, there were loads around that £10-12k mark. Same age no hybrids were still £18-25k or so. Big difference.
Maybe it will be different with the newer Hybrid, but considering you're asking about discounts suggests that you are not wanting to lose £10,000 a year over the next 4 years, and I think you might.
Porsche just offered us £28,400 for our 2019 base Cayenne, which my old man now has, which we bought 2 years and 8 months ago from OPC for £48k with 39k miles on it, now got 60k.
Great car and decided it would be silly to sell it, so will stick another years warranty on it in April.
I would definitely think this through.
Edited by Ed.Neumann on Sunday 21st December 19:49
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