GT3 MKII - How much?

[jjr1]

I have just found an 04/54 Comfort in Speed Yellow with ceramics for 67k and 1400 miles. This car is minter than mint but what is a good price for it? It is at an OPC

[s3am]

At a guess 64-65k?
This car with 3k is 62 at Tonbridge. Its an 04 reg.




>> Edited by s3am on Monday 10th October 21:22

[jjr1]

I am fixated with Speed Yellow at the moment after seeing one with Matt Black wheels so that rules that car out.

I also fear a real tanking in their prices as even GT3 RS
are now in the 60's.

[s3am]

It doesn't sound too far out. My gut is that the price slump will slow (hopefull), best thing to do is find a good deal over the winter. Was yours the C2S at Vmax a while ago, if so it sounded glorious.

[jjr1]

No mine only got a Tubi on Saturday and I will try and get some vid up of it tomorrow on the Scuderia website.

[DanH]

I wouldn't pay 67k for the one you described. You could nearly have an RS private for that money, although it would be a bit leggier (still talking <10k though).

>> Edited by DanH on Monday 10th October 21:37

[jjr1]

It is on SOR so what would you pay?

I also fear that an RS being high 60's means this car does look expensive.

[DanH]

I've stopped tracking prices that closely since I've now bought, but just find similar cars at other OPCs, assume you can knock a grand off at least and use that as a guide price.

Not all of them will play ball of course, so you may have to wait or compromise on colour.

I reckon S3am's price is in the right ballpark. Comparing to RS prices, you can't really compare private to OPC. I'd be inclined to go for a slightly older GT3 mk2 though, via an OPC for high 50s. They are all pretty low mileage anyway...

>> Edited by DanH on Monday 10th October 21:53

[rob05]

For me you'd be taking a step backwards.I'm not in anyway saying that the GT3 is'nt a fantastic car but for me against the 997 S its dated.I tend to agree with danH go for the RS at least you'l be driving round in a car that given enough time will be sought after,and of course will be the ultimate hard core drive in any 911 produced so far.

[DanH]

rob05 said:

For me you'd be taking a step backwards.I'm not in anyway saying that the GT3 is'nt a fantastic car but for me against the 997 S its dated.I tend to agree with danH go for the RS at least you'l be driving round in a car that given enough time will be sought after,and of course will be the ultimate hard core drive in any 911 produced so far.

Not sure thats giving due credit to the standard 996 GT3 mk2. It has without a doubt a superior engine to any current 997. The only thing thats dated on the 996 imho is the cabin. To get the S moving even vaguely as quick as a GT3 you need to strip out all the handy PASM etc.

The 997 is a great car, but the current models are evolutions of the cooking 996s, not the GT3s & Turbos. They've definitely moved the game on, but they still aren't the halo models...

[jjr1]

My 997S has no PASM so at least I am going in the right direction and it does have -20mm suspension and an LSD.

[Glenn McMenamin]

jjr1 said:

I am fixated with Speed Yellow at the moment after seeing one with Matt Black wheels

Would that be mine ????


There is a brand new one for sale in the classifieds on here i think, with normal wheels though.

G.

[DanH]

jjr1 said:

My 997S has no PASM so at least I am going in the right direction and it does have -20mm suspension and an LSD.

Now thats a spec I don't quite understand. Where does it sit once the 997 GT3 arrives?

Not sure I'd bother changing to a GT3 unless you do plan to track it though as they are pretty firm. If I didn't do track days I'd probably have a 997S with PASM

[lsb]

rob05

Did you not " bid £40k " for a mk1 gt3 on the recent thread " anyone looking for a rhd mk1 gt3 " ( wed 5th oct ) before reducing your bid to £20k when you realised you opened mouth a little too quickly ???

In those few minutes did you suddenly realise what a far superior car the 997 is over a gt3 ?????

I am confused.

[jcosh]

Sorry to jump in on your thread, but thought you may be interested to see that I have recently put my RS up for sale. See here:

www.pistonheads.com/sales/52670.htm

[clubsport]

Jonathan, I thought you were keeping the car after our chat at brands???
If you do sell somebody is going to own possibly the best cared for GT3RS there is.

[jjr1]

DanH said:

jjr1 said: My 997S has no PASM so at least I am going in the right direction and it does have -20mm suspension and an LSD. Now thats a spec I don't quite understand. Where does it sit once the 997 GT3 arrives? Not sure I'd bother changing to a GT3 unless you do plan to track it though as they are pretty firm. If I didn't do track days I'd probably have a 997S with PASM

Well you obviously have not driven a C2S with -20mm as it rides better than a PASM car in Sport and has none of that stupid bobbing front that a lot of owners are complaining about. When the 997 GT3 comes along it will be fine as it is nowhere near that extreme so will offer a very good road alternative that rides and handles better than a standard S and is faster still.

As for a GT3 being firm I found it far more compliant than I expected at the weekend and nowhere near as harsh as many people make out. I could easily live with it day to day but then I didn't find my Integra R or Elise awkward either so maybe I am an exception.

[rob05]

I should have made myself clearer,i meant in terms of refinement etc..For the rest i cant really comment because i dont really know but from reading the threads here on phers im sure for track use the GT3 is the better option.As the car market stands if it was my money and i wanted to keep as much of it as possible i would go for the RS keep the miles down.This car is the only 996 that is going to keep its value long term,ie next 5years.Of course it all depends what you want your car for and of course my opinion on re-sale values long term could be wrong but i do have it on good authority that this will be the case,time will tell.

[jcosh]

clubsport said:

Jonathan, I thought you were keeping the car after our chat at brands??? If you do sell somebody is going to own possibly the best cared for GT3RS there is.

Well we all know how these things change. We are expecting baby number two in a few weeks and I am begining to wonder how much time I will have next year to use the car. Put it this way, if it doesn't sell then I will try to do as many track days next year as I can.

Jonathan

[DanH]

jjr1 said:

DanH said: jjr1 said: My 997S has no PASM so at least I am going in the right direction and it does have -20mm suspension and an LSD. Now thats a spec I don't quite understand. Where does it sit once the 997 GT3 arrives? Not sure I'd bother changing to a GT3 unless you do plan to track it though as they are pretty firm. If I didn't do track days I'd probably have a 997S with PASM Well you obviously have not driven a C2S with -20mm as it rides better than a PASM car in Sport and has none of that stupid bobbing front that a lot of owners are complaining about. When the 997 GT3 comes along it will be fine as it is nowhere near that extreme so will offer a very good road alternative that rides and handles better than a standard S and is faster still. As for a GT3 being firm I found it far more compliant than I expected at the weekend and nowhere near as harsh as many people make out. I could easily live with it day to day but then I didn't find my Integra R or Elise awkward either so maybe I am an exception.

Are you saying you think the sports setup is stiffer than the 997GT3 will be? I really hope you are wrong as that would represent such a dilution of the GT3s values.

As to 996 GT3 ride, the ride is ok, its more the bump steer on rough B roads that makes you clench!