Waxoyl?
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DanH

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12,287 posts

287 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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Anyone bothered doing this to an RS etc? Any downsides and any idea where I could get it done in London/Essex?

I know the TVR crowd are big on this, but thought I'd ask here first.

domster

8,431 posts

297 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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Yes, it gets done to a lot of UK RSs. Virtually any competent garage can do it; some have their own preferred underseal. Ask your Porsche independent to underseal the car for you. It adds a little weight and the RSs are galvanised anyway, but it is probably a good idea if you drive it over the winter months.

DanH

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287 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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domster said:
Yes, it gets done to a lot of UK RSs. Virtually any competent garage can do it; some have their own preferred underseal. Ask your Porsche independent to underseal the car for you. It adds a little weight and the RSs are galvanised anyway, but it is probably a good idea if you drive it over the winter months.


I asked JZM about doing it and they don't do it! Anyone have any recommendations for someone who'll do a decent job of it?

I may have to ring a TVR garage

domster

8,431 posts

297 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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They just don't want to get dirty, LOL.

Autofarm used to do it from memory. Or try a more mud n guts indie, like a Land Rover specialist.

james_j

3,996 posts

282 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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domster said:
They just don't want to get dirty, LOL.

Autofarm used to do it from memory. Or try a more mud n guts indie, like a Land Rover specialist.



Yes, Autofarm still offer rustproofing.

johnnywishbone

1,171 posts

249 months

Friday 11th November 2005
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its good stuf !
you can get clear or black , the clear is like what porsche use . should be about £50-£100 subject to if they wash it of befour . good luck .

JWB

SP_CS

126 posts

256 months

Saturday 12th November 2005
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Try Terry's Beetle services in Hanwell, West London

£275 for my 911CS but depends on mucky the underneath is, done a top job - uses a Wurth product

don't think it mentions it on the website below

www.terrysbeetles.co.uk/

DanH

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287 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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Does anyone know what Porsche use on their modern cars as standard? I realise I haven't got it, but I'd like the same treatment normal 996s have if possible.

So far had various recommendations, including not to do it at all. Also talk of injecting waxoyl into sills etc which seems OTT?

clubsport

7,408 posts

285 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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Dan, keep it standard...don't spoil things with hard underseal like the lardy 996 versions. Plus anyone looking to buy the car will assume it was spanked and repaired at some point...

For a winter waxoyl treatment, have the underside steam cleaned and then spray the liquid waxoyl on,,,,it sort of hardens ,,,well solidifies from the liquid state when it is warmed....this will be good enough to keep the salt at bay through the winter. In the spring just steam clean the now dirty waxoyl off to reveal a clean underside.

I have done the above on various classic cars over the years with no rusting problems,,,pointless to inject the sills....fine on an old MGB GT,,,but they were never galvanised like your Porsche.

DanH

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Sunday 20th November 2005
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clubsport said:
Dan, keep it standard...don't spoil things with hard underseal like the lardy 996 versions. Plus anyone looking to buy the car will assume it was spanked and repaired at some point...

For a winter waxoyl treatment, have the underside steam cleaned and then spray the liquid waxoyl on,,,,it sort of hardens ,,,well solidifies from the liquid state when it is warmed....this will be good enough to keep the salt at bay through the winter. In the spring just steam clean the now dirty waxoyl off to reveal a clean underside.

I have done the above on various classic cars over the years with no rusting problems,,,pointless to inject the sills....fine on an old MGB GT,,,but they were never galvanised like your Porsche.


Now read that doing this during winter is a bad idea as it won't dry properly so waxoyl will trap moisture? Thoughts?

Also would you recommend the thick black waxoyl or the thinner clear stuff?

thanks.

SP_CS

126 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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The place that did mine didnt steam clean the underneath, just air-hose'd it, hence no moisture.

DanH

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Monday 21st November 2005
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SP_CS said:
The place that did mine didnt steam clean the underneath, just air-hose'd it, hence no moisture.



Was that Wurth product black or clear/white? Think I'd prefer to use something clear or white on a white RS.

Cheers,

Dan

clubsport

7,408 posts

285 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Dan, Waxoyl's states that it chases water off of mild steel plate in seconds,,don't really see how it will trap moisture....i always use the thinner gold colour one...it will go blackish with road grime anyhow.....just steam clean off and reapply when required...the black stuff is a lot more permanant and wouldn't look right on a white 996.

340ragtop

919 posts

272 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Is it just RS's that aren't hard undersealed or all the Gts?

cheers

DanH

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Monday 21st November 2005
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340ragtop said:
Is it just RS's that aren't hard undersealed or all the Gts?

cheers


Just the RS.

Does ragtop fancy doing some waxoyl'ing Bruce? Dunno if you are still doing maintenance since the move?

SP_CS

126 posts

256 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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DanH said:
SP_CS said:
The place that did mine didnt steam clean the underneath, just air-hose'd it, hence no moisture.



Was that Wurth product black or clear/white? Think I'd prefer to use something clear or white on a white RS.

Cheers,

Dan


Black, but clubsport is right, I had the clear Waxoyl done 2 years sgo, went black within 6 months or so of road use.

The black Wurth product is very slightly compressible - seems to have reduced road/tyre noise a tad too