Bought a 993, big smiles
Bought a 993, big smiles
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993buyer

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2,079 posts

248 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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So I finally committed myself and bought a 993 c2 coupe.

And I bought it over the phone without seeing it, following a Peter Morgan inspection. PM is certainly top value for inspections/advice.

I think I picked a good honest straight 911, but I guess only time will tell. After traipsing round all the usual specialist dealer this one popped up on autotrader website as a private sale, in the model/colour I was seeking.

It even came with a private plate - A 993 LAD - not sure it suits me though - wonder what it's worth?

So at last I own the car of my dreams. Will I get time to drive it?

Judging by the mileage non of it's previous 3 owners did!



verysideways

10,268 posts

299 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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"We want pictures, we want pictures, we want pictures..."

diesel

70 posts

277 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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fantastic! arnt they! mine soon to have pss-9 and supercharger

matsleight

72 posts

277 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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Congrats! I hope to do the same in the next year or so, hoearding my pennies ;-)
How did you find Peter Morgan re inspection, was it pretty thorough etc? I had one done on my 944 by another company and wsa far from impressed and was thinking of using Peter when it comes to 993.
Huryy up and get the pics online ;-)

993buyer

Original Poster:

2,079 posts

248 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Hi Matt,

Peter Morgan was fantastic. I read about someone else using him on this Forum and gave him a call.

He was very friendly, gave me some helpful advice while I was pinning down suitable cars for viewing, and when I found the one I wanted he inspected it within 48 hours of my request. This was very important as I'm sure I would have lost the car to other interested buyers if I had waited longer.

Also, he inspected the car before I had had a chance to see it myself. He then called me immediately with a verbal summary of it's condition which enabled me to agree terms with the seller even before I received Peters written report.

The written report is top notch - very thorough and 9 pages long with lots of pics of areas that he feels worth noting. You get it via e-mail in about 24 hours and then a printed one in the post.

He also gets an HPI report included in the inspection fee of £285 and that costs £40 normally.

For me the inspection fee was well worth the money. Mainly for the peace of mind because you don't want to buy a lemon. But also some of the things in his report I would never have picked up on. In the case of my car, it looks in such good nick that I would probably have paid the asking price - but Peter listed a few minor things which I flagged with the sellor and we agreed the deal at £500 less so the inspection easily 'paid for itself'.

The 993 I've bought has an interesting story I think (although I guess most do). I bought it privately and the sellor has owned it for over 5 years and in that time has only done less than 6,000 miles! In the last twelve months it has only done 300 miles. Now I recognise this is not necessarily a good thing, but the car is in very nice, very original condition. But it does leave you wondering how somebody can own such a great car but use it so little - is it an omen for how often I will drive it?

Anyway i've just booked it into Cambridge Porsche for a major service and to have all the little issues that Peter Morgan spotted sorted out.

Marc

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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993buyer said:
Hi Matt,
Anyway i've just booked it into Cambridge Porsche for a major service and to have all the little issues that Peter Morgan spotted sorted out.

Marc


That'll wipe the smile from your face!

993buyer

Original Poster:

2,079 posts

248 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Yes I fear you're right.

The person booking my car in for the work was incredibly helpful and friendly. We'll collect the car sir, do you need a courtesy car sir, leave it with us for a few days sir.

I have no doubt all this comes at a huge price!!!

Anyway, at least I'll have the peace of mind that it's had a good overhaul. And once I get the bill I guess it will be so scary that I'll then be seeking a good independent porsche specialist for the future!!! Anyone know of one near Cambridge?

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Sorry, but I did exactly this when I bought my car and I ended up with a £1500 hole and more problems than before I started. Had to take the car to Parr to be sorted out.

OPC does not equal peace of mind.

993buyer

Original Poster:

2,079 posts

248 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Hmmm, but I've booked it into the Cambridge OPC now. Guess I'll have to take my chance.

Just looked at the Parr site - looks great, but they're in Sussex. I must start hunting down a decent Indy close to Cambridge.

manek

2,978 posts

311 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Parr are amazingly thorough though...

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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OPC will have you pants down, 'forget' to do much of the work and charge for things they 'forgot' to fit. In my case, alternator, gearbox oil etc. Ended up reaching agreement before court action and settled.

Do yourself a favour, cancel, take it down to Parr and then you really will be able to sleep at night knowing that what's been done had been done properly.

993rsr

3,656 posts

276 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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993 Buyer, I would advise against using Porsche Cambridge for your 993. They will charge you a vast amount of cash and will not be familiar with car's of your age.

I use their ex head technician (20 years with Porsche's) and he's based in Norwich. Looks after my 993GT2 and two other GT2's and is top notch.

Mike Roberts MSport Road and Track 07711 911993. He can collect/deliver your car by trailer. Oh, and he charges £55 an hour.

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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There you go, as RSR says, use someone else, preferably someone recommended as above. Cancel the OPC and with the money you save you'll have 6 months of free fuel.

ninemeister

1,146 posts

285 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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I concur with 993RSR, Mike is a top bloke and will do a fine job of your car... but don't expect a courtesy car and be patient.

DriveFree

50 posts

258 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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I agree a Peter Morgan inspection will pay for itself, no matter how it turns out.

Pickled Piper

6,451 posts

262 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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993buyer said:

The person booking my car in for the work was incredibly helpful and friendly. We'll collect the car sir, do you need a courtesy car sir, leave it with us for a few days sir.



Picture the scene; receptionist above rubs hands together gleefully whilst talking to you on the phone. Smiles and removes jar of vaseline from top draw as you confirm the booking.

pp

abarber

1,702 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Congrats! I love mine, so much character..

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

268 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Just flicking through the PCGB magazine, page 99:

993. A new owner contacted me for an opinion on an OPC service bill for £4K. This was purportedley for a 12K service.

cyberface

12,214 posts

284 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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I also advise against an OPC for your car - get a decent indie to do the job. As recommended above, cancel and go to one of the guys recommended on this thread.

There are plenty of other threads here on good indies for 993s if you search.

Have fun!

colin993rs

68 posts

256 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Completely agree with 993rsr and Ninemeister - Mike Roberts is the business, and well worth making the travel arrangments (you may even see a veritable feast of GT2s and RSs from every model generation) . 'Nuff said.