OPC. Worth the extra?
OPC. Worth the extra?
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supermono

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7,464 posts

275 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Chaps,

I've just been speaking to two OPCs about used C4Ss and I'm impressed with them. Impressed with the preparation they tell me they do, impressed with the warranty.

Thing is, come resale if I didn't go back to an OPC, would the next owner care a jot that it was OPC supplied?

Am I getting this money back next time I trade it in at an OPC?

Andy

magriggs

875 posts

249 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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You can get the 111-point inspection done on any 911, not just an OPC supplied one. You can also apply the same used warranty, as long as the car passes the OPC inspection.

Personally I bought privately, had the car inspected before purchase, and applied the warranty. Saved myself around £3-4k that way.

verysideways

10,268 posts

299 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Surely on a mid 40's 996C4S, the OPC must have their fingers in the pie by a good £6k right? That's after they've spent the money on bringing the car up to scratch and sorted out the warranty right? So either do it yourself (as has been said) or try and knock them down at least £3k on their asking price.

jimbo22

87 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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I've been looking for a while now and have generally found that the OPC forecourt price is usually £5/6k over what you should be paying for a good private sale, £3/4k for an Independant dealer sale

paulburrell

648 posts

260 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Andy

Read the thread behind this link and make up your own mind.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=217186&f=48&h=0

I would agree with the others, buy private, get it inspected and throw on a Porsche warranty for £750

anonymous-user

81 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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take a look around the nice smoked glass showroom, enjoy the coffee and admire the salesmans nice suit thats what your £6k pays for...

rob05

1,194 posts

255 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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No it is'nt imo.
Buy private then buy a warranty,sideways and others are spot on here.

sundiver

780 posts

264 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Agreed - buy private, get the 111pt inspection done during the sale process with option to walk. Buy a warranty. Same car - save ~£5K. Its what I did and I'd do it again.

supermono

Original Poster:

7,464 posts

275 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Wow. Thanks for the link. I know this was only one case, but always fascinating to read how someone dealt with a problem.

Looking outside the OPC network I can see a few other possibilities...

Andy

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Agree with the 6k difference, but.........

How much time, hassle do you have to spend buying and selling your cars privately. How much money could you earn in that time doing what you do for a living?

Then factor in peace of mind that you're covered against almost all forms of fraud, and it's highly unlikely that the car will have a dodgy history.

Also you have to put a value on the fact that buying a car from a dealer(not just an OPC), is an extremely pleasurable experience.

Work all that out and it's probably less of a saving (although it obviously is one) than you might think.

S1XXR

814 posts

257 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Whichever way you go it's far smarter than buying new.

There are always plenty of factory fresh, ultra low mileage, pampered 911's (all variants) on sale at any given time...so you can afford to be selective too.

lanesra10

313 posts

258 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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VS OPC would'nt get out of bed for £6k on £45k they would be looking to clear 20%(£9k). They look to clear £6k on a£30k Boxster. Also you wont find OPC's with £45k 996 4s's
Buy Private or from reputable independant unless you can get the OPC to within £2k then go to OPC for warranty

nonegreen

7,803 posts

297 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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There are some independants where you can smell their excrement on the steering wheel. Quite rightly Ted prevents them from being named and shamed because in fairness there is only ever opinion in this debate. The OPCs do a good job, they provide a great service for a fair price and they guarantee what they do. They are a legitimate business. If you can accept that they want to make 10k on every deal and they are an expensive but fail safe solution to Porche ownership then go for it and spend the surplus time making the money back. Buying private? Well if you have a tame expert (they are really few and far between) then you can buy a lot cheaper sell for less loss and have a lot more hassle. If I had unlimited funds I would use the OPC. Particularly as my local one has a particularly pleasant young woman serving coffee.

supermono

Original Poster:

7,464 posts

275 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Actaully I was looking at a C4S this very weekend for 45k at an OPC. So there

Thanks for the views, very enlightening.

Andy

uuf361

3,164 posts

249 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Bought mine from an independent dealer and it was the cheapest car he had sold in over a year so he wasn't too worried about margins......got the 111 point and a service a the local OPC thrown into the bargain and could have walked if it was negative......I reckon I saved almost £8K in comparison to the OPC prices.

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Conversely I got my RS from a dealer for a fair price, with 16 months warranty, an oil + filter change & a few other odds and sods.

They wanted rid of the car as it was sticking to the forecourt, but it was both a pleasurably and fairly priced experience. I paid less than any indy's were asking, or most private sales. Granted I got very luck to find a car they needed rid of and were willing to give a keen price on, but it just shows they can be very competitive sometimes.

Someone else got a bargain on a mk2 G3 at 53k ticket price a couple of days ago from an OPC.

anonymous-user

81 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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DanH said:
They wanted rid of the car as it was sticking to the forecourt


i think ive been in your car a few times, if its the one they couldnt shift at east london opc this spring/summer just past, beautiful car. they were extremely reluctant to allow test drives so not that suprised it didnt shift. in fairness to them im not sure i'd let me take a car like that out.

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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francisb said:
DanH said:
They wanted rid of the car as it was sticking to the forecourt


i think ive been in your car a few times, if its the one they couldnt shift at east london opc this spring/summer just past, beautiful car. they were extremely reluctant to allow test drives so not that suprised it didnt shift. in fairness to them im not sure i'd let me take a car like that out.


Yep thats it. Were more than happy to let me testdrive it although it was clever upselling on their part as I was looking for a mk2 gt3!

anonymous-user

81 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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DanH said:
francisb said:
DanH said:
They wanted rid of the car as it was sticking to the forecourt


i think ive been in your car a few times, if its the one they couldnt shift at east london opc this spring/summer just past, beautiful car. they were extremely reluctant to allow test drives so not that suprised it didnt shift. in fairness to them im not sure i'd let me take a car like that out.


Yep thats it. Were more than happy to let me testdrive it although it was clever upselling on their part as I was looking for a mk2 gt3!


i clearly look too much of an oik. next time i will wear some full arab robes and ask if they have enough cars for all my wives.

PEVO

103 posts

249 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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nonegreen said:
. . . . The OPCs do a good job, they provide a great service for a fair price and they guarantee what they do. They are a legitimate business. If you can accept that they want to make 10k on every deal and they are an expensive but fail safe solution to Porche ownership . . . .


Beg to differ. Gotta say the OPC I bought my 996tt from have provided me with a sh*te service. All smiles, coffee and "whatever sir wants . . " when the deal was being made, but read my thread on wheelnuts - it'll give you a different perspective. Quite honestly, I've had more comeback with the pirate dvd peddlers - and I'm not joking!!!

Would I ever buy from an OPC again?? NO!!! Indeed, just found a Boxster s for the missus, from an independent dealer. Was having trouble selling my EVO, so they gave me a decent(ish) px price for it. Asked them to take it for an inspection, needs a new clutch, which they said they will replace (no quibbling) and get it warrantied (Porsche). Both missus and I happy bunnies.