RE: Porsche Cayenne
Tuesday 26th November 2002
Porsche Cayenne
On road and off - Robert Farago tests the new Cayenne
Discussion
Not sure I understand the last line. Maybe it's a typo? Do you mean its the most capable off roader ON the road or (as written ) the fastest and most capable off roader, OFF the road ?
Cos if you mean the last one, then I'm not sure you can be correct.
After all, getting stuck in a muddy field is hardly a testament to it's off road prowess is it?
Andy 400se
Cos if you mean the last one, then I'm not sure you can be correct.
After all, getting stuck in a muddy field is hardly a testament to it's off road prowess is it?
Andy 400se
Okaaaay (cautious tone )
But all he did was bat it up a gravel track, and try to drive across a muddy field. Hardly the Camel challenge was it?
Whilst I'm sure he's enthused by the on road tyres ability to do a bit off road too, this hardly constitutes a full off road test, and certainly doesn't qualify the Cayenne for the title "most capable off roader"!
or am I missing something here?
Andy 400se
But all he did was bat it up a gravel track, and try to drive across a muddy field. Hardly the Camel challenge was it?
Whilst I'm sure he's enthused by the on road tyres ability to do a bit off road too, this hardly constitutes a full off road test, and certainly doesn't qualify the Cayenne for the title "most capable off roader"!
or am I missing something here?
Andy 400se
Whilst I'm a little disenchanted by the concept of platform sharing with Hyundai or whoever the bloody mass produced hell it is (
sodding VW-Audi!), the concept of an off-roader per se is perhaps a little unsetting to purists but - remember the LM002 from Lamborghini?
Yes, I realise this was only ever going to be a hit with the Gadaffi types of this world, whereas the Cayenne may fall victim to ubiquity via the dreaded condition suffered by the ML/X5 brigade, known as schoolrunitus but look - is it actually any damn good?
The answer seems to be a resounding yes from all sources.
I actually think it sounds like a hoot AND I don't think it would ever dampen my desire to own a Gemballa GTR 750 Evo by the fact of it's mere existence.
sodding VW-Audi!), the concept of an off-roader per se is perhaps a little unsetting to purists but - remember the LM002 from Lamborghini? Yes, I realise this was only ever going to be a hit with the Gadaffi types of this world, whereas the Cayenne may fall victim to ubiquity via the dreaded condition suffered by the ML/X5 brigade, known as schoolrunitus but look - is it actually any damn good?
The answer seems to be a resounding yes from all sources.
I actually think it sounds like a hoot AND I don't think it would ever dampen my desire to own a Gemballa GTR 750 Evo by the fact of it's mere existence.
So you're chopping in the Land Cruiser then, old man ? 'Bout bloody time if you asketh me. Do they still have those poxy gauges on top of the dash that show you what sort of camber you're driving over ? Always found them amusing - you're hardly ever going to attempt to land the thing, are you ?
GregE240 said: So you're chopping in the Land Cruiser then, old man ? 'Bout bloody time if you asketh me. Do they still have those poxy gauges on top of the dash that show you what sort of camber you're driving over ? Always found them amusing - you're hardly ever going to attempt to land the thing, are you ?
Greg,
How dare you call into question the utter viability of the inclinometer!
This essential article has saved my bacon on several escapes from the bleak wastes of the land that time forgot, aka Yorkshire. And the compass, too: why, here in the outposts of The Empire, there are all sorts of randomn, disorientating squalls that can throw you off course from the local pie shop - ergo, more essential navigational gizmology.
Also the altimeter; this is 'de rigeur' oop North where even the most innocent trip to the furrier can result in an unexpected detour into mountainous regions; at which point oxygen might become a factor unless your ascent is restrained.
I rest my case.
More wine, Vicar?
Hmmm having done a little bit of off roading (really is fun) and several track days. The Cayenne article got me thinking about off-road/rally cross style track days, nothing too hardcore that will dent scrape, just some muddy/gravel corners with a couple of jumps and some splashes, would be fun!!
PS. Flying a long a dirt track in a 4x4 and doing jumps etc. is just as much fun as sliding a sports cars round a track/airfield
PPS I don't have a probelm with softroaders, driving on the road is not what it (really) should be about, get them muddy! (not many places in England sadly)
>> Edited by hoganscrogan on Tuesday 26th November 13:17
PS. Flying a long a dirt track in a 4x4 and doing jumps etc. is just as much fun as sliding a sports cars round a track/airfield
PPS I don't have a probelm with softroaders, driving on the road is not what it (really) should be about, get them muddy! (not many places in England sadly)
>> Edited by hoganscrogan on Tuesday 26th November 13:17
Graham.J said: Is it me or does the back end look a bit like an Audi A4?????
If you ask me, from this angle it makes me think of a BMW M coupé...
Let's face it, Porsche made the Cayenne because they were too ashamed to make an estate car (station wagon to those Stateside) - but that's really all it is, a pumped up load lugger. So what if it can go off road a bit or a lot? Who is going to buy a SUV at £60,000 and take it onto anything other than some loose gravel? If you want off-road, buy a Defender, if you want an estate car, buy a 5 series or an E-class and if you want a sports car, buy anything but the Cayenne.
Even though the Cayenne has some impressive features and a Porsche badge on the hood, it remains one of the best ways to erase tires on the market. The amount of time it will spend off road is laughable, so what is left is a road car weighing in at 5200 pounds. Even a light touch on the throttle will soon erase tires. My 928 does a pretty good job of it, without wheelspin, and it weighs a ton less than the Cayenne. Put a homely body on the chassis, and a transmission that you can't buy parts for and must exchange if you have a problem, and you have one expensive pig of wretched excess. How come the champion of small motors and light weight ends up tossing their heritage and builds something conceptually so different? Answer: An almost immoral greed that overcomes the hard earned integrity of the previous individuals who worked so hard to put the Porsche name where it recently had been, at the top of the standard.
You know, there are a lot of guys out there who toiled with blood, sweat, and tears, to give Porsche the proud name they have. But it only takes one Gucci wearing accountant who finds himself in a position of power on a board of directors that can toss the entire thing down the drain. Reputations are hard to earn, and awful easy to lose.
Dogsharks
You know, there are a lot of guys out there who toiled with blood, sweat, and tears, to give Porsche the proud name they have. But it only takes one Gucci wearing accountant who finds himself in a position of power on a board of directors that can toss the entire thing down the drain. Reputations are hard to earn, and awful easy to lose.
Dogsharks
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