911 engine in a Boxter?

[chuckie]

This is just a query I have had from someone.
Can you fit either a 996 3.4 or 3.6 engine in a Boxter?

Could be quite an interesting combination. Not sure the insurance company will agree.

[Don]

chuckie said:

This is just a query I have had from someone. Can you fit either a 996 3.4 or 3.6 engine in a Boxter? Could be quite an interesting combination. Not sure the insurance company will agree.

The answer is yes. The car is made by Ruf.

I've considered doing this myself as the result is, apparently, a fairly brisk machine.

[Taaffy]

German tuning company RUF did this a few years ago and i'm sure others have followed suit for easier power gains.......

[chuckie]

So if you had say a spare engine from a 996 you could pop down your local specialist and get them to do the swap over......I know both engines share many similarities but do you reckon this would be a lot more complicated than it sounds?? What about chasis strengthening etc. I am starting to like the sounds of this guys mad idea.

[agent006]

There is a non-Ruf 3.6 boxster around. Was for sale on here many moons ago.

[iain_cam]

Funny you should mention that - I was thinking exactly the same thing this morning.

The result would be a kind of modern 916 - and with decent Boxsters around the £15000 (some even less - search Autotrader if you don't believe me!), it sounds like a fantastic idea.....until I thought of real world issues like insurance...!

[AJAX50]

I nearly did this 18 months ago, but went the 993 route in the end. Autofarm were happy to do the work. It would cost about £3.5K for a second hand engine and fitting? £3.0K? I think you would need to start with an S rather than a 2.5 or 2.7.

[BliarOut]

It's the car that Porsche are afraid to build. Would be better handling and faster than the 911 IMO. Always fancied doing this too. And yes, the S is the car to start with as it has the six speed box and uprated brakes etc.

[GravelBen]

Ruf have done it (the 3400s and 3600s), and Gemballa have also done a few, complete with turbos to 550hp (iirc)

[cyrus1971]

More cost effective to turbo charge a Boxster S

[BliarOut]

cyrus1971 said:

More cost effective to turbo charge a Boxster S

Is there room? Apparently there isn't room for a Supercharger.

[jjr1]

chuckie said:

This is just a query I have had from someone. Can you fit either a 996 3.4 or 3.6 engine in a Boxter? Could be quite an interesting combination. Not sure the insurance company will agree.

It is spelt Boxster not Boxter.

[993SC]

chuckie said:

Not sure the insurance company will agree.

I've got a 1983 911SC that has a supercharged 993 engine and a few other mods (suspension, brakes etc). My insurance is £880 for 4,000 miles. I live in East London and have no garage. I'm 31.

So I reckon 996 engine into a Boxster should be OK insurance wise.

[Don]

BliarOut said:

cyrus1971 said: More cost effective to turbo charge a Boxster S Is there room? Apparently there isn't room for a Supercharger.

Depends if your willing to sacrifice some of the rear boot. I've heard of supercharged Boxsters but the rear boot space is halved and isn't as tidy...

[chuckie]

It is spelt Boxster not Boxter.[/quote]

Oops, sorry I know... its just that what my head spells is sometimes different to what my fingures type.

[chuckie]

993SC said:

chuckie said: Not sure the insurance company will agree. I've got a 1983 911SC that has a supercharged 993 engine and a few other mods (suspension, brakes etc). My insurance is £880 for 4,000 miles. I live in East London and have no garage. I'm 31. So I reckon 996 engine into a Boxster should be OK insurance wise.

Crikey!!! Now that sounds like a lot of fun. Whats it like...I used to have a 930 and have a 993 now but your SC must offer a fuel induced face lift with a heavy right foot.

[clapham993]

I know someone who had this done, with a 996 engine.

By the time he'd paid for parts & labour, uprated the brakes & suspension & added some body tweaks necessary to keep it stable at speed, it cost him £19k

The work was done to a high standard by Autofarm using a warranted 2nd hand engine.

The sting in the tail was that the car was a pig to drive.......

[cyberface]

993SC said:

chuckie said: Not sure the insurance company will agree. I've got a 1983 911SC that has a supercharged 993 engine and a few other mods (suspension, brakes etc). My insurance is £880 for 4,000 miles. I live in East London and have no garage. I'm 31. So I reckon 996 engine into a Boxster should be OK insurance wise.

But both you and I are running classic policies which are *much* cheaper... the Boxster won't have that possibility.

FWIW my supercharged 993 only hit 'classic' age for my insurance purposes last year - I did get it insured before this at £1400 for a 30-yr old (at the time) parked on the street in Kent. Only sensible quote I got mind you, and that was with Privilege who I'd used since I was a teenager IIRC.

I'd say a supercharged Boxster would be possible but 1-2k insurance - try to find an insurer who quotes on BHP gain, then strap on an Eaton blower that only gives 19% more peak BHP but around 100% more torque through the low and mid range, and then have a laugh. If you turbo anything up to more than twice its original power then it's a specialist insurer job (or call Adrian Flux and insure it as a 'special' i.e. forget the fact it was once a Porsche Boxster)

Still, I like the idea. The Boxster drives well but needs more poke!

[DucatiGary]

im starting to think the PH porsche forum has gone down hill after joinin it up to the boxster forum.. .. .. ..

[BliarOut]

Cough