Paint Protection Film
Paint Protection Film
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ross

Original Poster:

219 posts

307 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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Anyone come across VentureShield from a company called InvisiblePatterns as an alternative to armourfend or paintshield. It's for a black car, so want it not to be too visible?

paulburrell

648 posts

256 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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I have Paint Shield on my black GT3 MK1 and I have to say that it's brilliant. It's saved me from loads of stone chips and is almost invisible. Highly recommended.

singh911

957 posts

264 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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First thing i did when i got mine. 10,000 miles later, lots of track time, no stone chips. No brainer.

Cheers

ross

Original Poster:

219 posts

307 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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got armourfend on my gt3 when i bought it, but its silver so you hardly notice, certainly on tvrs it stands out more on dark colours

evolutionvalet

907 posts

243 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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Ross,
To be honest,no matter what company you use, the film will still be slightly visible on the edge.
There are ways to reduce the 'visibility' a bit. First, we make sure the car is clean ( I know its obvious but the paintwork under the film will shine through so if its dirty then the film will magnify this) and free from wax before applying the film. The second is to ensure it goes down in a clean and dust free environment as otherwise any dirt trapped under the film will cause small lumps which look like white domes.The kits we install are all pre cut off the car and where possible to the body edge so to minimise the chance of seeing the lip.
Once the film has cured after 5-7 days, it is important to clean the car and wax the paintwork and the film.
There is no other way to 'lose' the line. Its a decision you need to make I am afraid as to whether you can put up with a faint line or stone chips.
The installer is a major factor when fitting the film as they can over stretch and shock the film which leaves marks and lines in the film also.
Make sure the film you choose comes with a warranty on the paintwork underneath as well as against fading or discolouring.
If you need any more advice, dont hesitate to ask.
Cheers
Kev

mikeg996

875 posts

245 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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Permagard, Permagard, Permagard.

www.permagard.info

big.bad.wolfie

910 posts

263 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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mikeg996 said:
Permagard, Permagard, Permagard.

www.permagard.info



You are kidding, right?

How can any liquid based 'stuff' protect any car from stonechips? Does this 'stuff' have specially opposed stone magnets that repel stones preventing them from hitting the car?

barry_j

605 posts

259 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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I've had permagard on my car for 3mths and its great
...but its not going to stop stone chips.

DoctorD

1,542 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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I assume most of these companies have now copied Armourfend and obtain the same 3M protection film (which was originally developed to protect the blade tips on helicopters, by the way). The last car I had protected by armourfend we used my car as the template (since it was the first car they had done) and I therefore helped them develop the design. There are two things that would make me choose one over the other; how the film is designed to reflect the contours of the car and how it is applied.

It's a skilled job and the last thing you want is bubbles or imperfections showing through, so chooose your fitter wisely. As has already been said, it's 'nearly' invisible but can still be seen and therefore how the film is shaped to reflect the contours and lines of your car will dictate whether it looks naff or more like a factory job. I personally found that Armourfend had a good 'designers eye'.

Before you choose, see other examples that have been worked on (usually parked outside) and check the quality of the fitting, then compare the design of the film pattern between respective companies and make sure whoever you choose has made the effort to blend it in properly.

glyn waxmaster

328 posts

244 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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personal choice i suppose but i have detailed many cars over the years and i have never seen one where any of these films are invisible, in fact as time goes on they become more apparent due to a build up of dirt on the edges.
whilst its not going to stop stone chips many of my clients say it has vastly reduced them by having a good few coats of "proper" wax applied especially to the areas where they are going to pick up the chips.

cuneus

5,963 posts

265 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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"I assume most of these companies have now copied Armourfend and obtain the same 3M protection film (which was originally developed to protect the blade tips on helicopters, by the way)"

Er no and no

There are at least 2 other manufacturers of film. Both have kept to the same 6mm film 2mm adhesive spec and they have better clarity.

Helicopter tape is very sticky, thinner and difficult to work with. It costs 3 figures for a roll

DoctorD

1,542 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Well I've had it fitted to 3 cars but a recent batch of film used by Armourfend seemed less perfect (with glue spots appearing under the film after a few months). Mine is on a Silver Grey car and has left me with virtually perfect paint (i.e. no stone chips) after 11,000 miles. Most of my mileage has been on track, sitting a few metres behing one car or another being pelted by stones and rubber marbles. The windscreen is very pitted, but the paintwork is excellent and I'm very glad that I fitted it. I also meticulously wax and seal the paintwork, but that's not nearly enough on its own. I don't fit it to all my cars, just those that are particularly suceptible or that I drive very fast.

mikeg996

875 posts

245 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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big.bad.wolfie said:
mikeg996 said:
Permagard, Permagard, Permagard.

www.permagard.info



You are kidding, right?

How can any liquid based 'stuff' protect any car from stonechips? Does this 'stuff' have specially opposed stone magnets that repel stones preventing them from hitting the car?


I don't believe the original poster said anything about stone chips.

Bennachie

1,091 posts

174 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Don't you find 8mm of film overkill? The paint can't pop through 6mm of film and 2mm of adhesive surely? rolleyes