Another mortgage without parents finding out??
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I've just been on the porsche website as their configurator has been updated with the PCM and price lists, so I thought I'd build my Porsche (996 Turbo) a few years early. The problem is, I've fallen in love with the virtual version and have to have it.
So, does anyone reckon I could get another mortgage without the parents finding out, and how do I hide one in a garage filled with a westfield??
again without parents noticing........
P.S. I new I should have driven off with that Turbo I had to park on work experience.:dream:
So, does anyone reckon I could get another mortgage without the parents finding out, and how do I hide one in a garage filled with a westfield??
again without parents noticing........ P.S. I new I should have driven off with that Turbo I had to park on work experience.:dream:
Didn't think so!
Spec is: (I'll leave the niggly bits out)
- Forest Green, no 'spoiler' (didn't think aerokit was worth 3k)
- Black Leather interior with little bit's of aluminium e.g. gear and handbrake lever.
- Manual box (didn't like the tip's I went in on work ex)
- 6 CD changer, PCM with mobile phone setup instead of 'car phone'
- Parking sensor (if mum ever drives it)
- Cruise control (nice on long journeys)
- 18" wheels, not too sure about these though.
- Leather Sports seats, although the picture didnt work so I'm not sure what you get.
- Sports steering wheel, again no picture so not sure.
- 2 medium Pistonhead's window stickers in rear side windows
- Furry Dice
- Blue LED washer's
- Green underbody neons
(ok joking about the last 3)
Think that's about it bar things like aluminium sill protectors and tinted top of windscreen.
>> Edited by Graham.J on Friday 13th December 23:47
Spec is: (I'll leave the niggly bits out)
- Forest Green, no 'spoiler' (didn't think aerokit was worth 3k)
- Black Leather interior with little bit's of aluminium e.g. gear and handbrake lever.
- Manual box (didn't like the tip's I went in on work ex)
- 6 CD changer, PCM with mobile phone setup instead of 'car phone'
- Parking sensor (if mum ever drives it)
- Cruise control (nice on long journeys)
- 18" wheels, not too sure about these though.
- Leather Sports seats, although the picture didnt work so I'm not sure what you get.
- Sports steering wheel, again no picture so not sure.
- 2 medium Pistonhead's window stickers in rear side windows
- Furry Dice
- Blue LED washer's
- Green underbody neons
(ok joking about the last 3)
Think that's about it bar things like aluminium sill protectors and tinted top of windscreen.
>> Edited by Graham.J on Friday 13th December 23:47
Sounds good.
A couple of observations so the salespeople recognise you as a full on porsche nut geek (A la Me, DeR, Domster, scottster, iguana, etc.....).
1 - Not going for the spoiler kit is a good idea (IMHO, sorry Rich1231). The front spoiler when painted tends to chip if you nudge kerbs, the plastic on the non spoiler kitted cars don't, Manu and sb930flatnose will back me up on this issue!!
2 - The problem in having PCM is you loose the din slot gaps in the centre console. These are important for mounting you license protection weaponary.
3 - Cruise control excellent for empty motorways when you're on 11 points.
4 - 18 inch wheels are standard on the turbo. They are actually hollow in the spokes. The C4S has similar looking wheels but these are not hollow.
5 - Sports seats. Hmmmmm. The base looks similar to the standard seat but has steeper sides, the seat back flares out at shoulder level for additional cornering support. Interestingly only one of the parts move electrically (can't remember which). I don't believe you can order heated sport seats or lumbar adjustment. Sports seats should not be confused with bucket seats.
6 - The standard turbo steering wheel is a 3 spoke job. I don't know what they mean by sports steering wheel.
7 - You also need to put a medium pistonhead sticker infront of the rear view mirror. A small pistonhead sticker can also be applied to the rear window, centred in the outline of the Nurburgring track which you will no doubt purchase when you join a bunch of PH Ring Addicts on your first trip.
8 - Aluminum sills look great but they are a bitch to keep clean in the winter.
9 - Tinted top screen is standard UK spec but it is a no cost delete option.
DAZ
:takinganorakoff:
All the above was the situation with Porsche GB in January 2002 when I took a particular interest in options.
>> Edited by dazren on Saturday 14th December 00:41
A couple of observations so the salespeople recognise you as a full on porsche nut geek (A la Me, DeR, Domster, scottster, iguana, etc.....).
1 - Not going for the spoiler kit is a good idea (IMHO, sorry Rich1231). The front spoiler when painted tends to chip if you nudge kerbs, the plastic on the non spoiler kitted cars don't, Manu and sb930flatnose will back me up on this issue!!
2 - The problem in having PCM is you loose the din slot gaps in the centre console. These are important for mounting you license protection weaponary.
3 - Cruise control excellent for empty motorways when you're on 11 points.
4 - 18 inch wheels are standard on the turbo. They are actually hollow in the spokes. The C4S has similar looking wheels but these are not hollow.
5 - Sports seats. Hmmmmm. The base looks similar to the standard seat but has steeper sides, the seat back flares out at shoulder level for additional cornering support. Interestingly only one of the parts move electrically (can't remember which). I don't believe you can order heated sport seats or lumbar adjustment. Sports seats should not be confused with bucket seats.
6 - The standard turbo steering wheel is a 3 spoke job. I don't know what they mean by sports steering wheel.
7 - You also need to put a medium pistonhead sticker infront of the rear view mirror. A small pistonhead sticker can also be applied to the rear window, centred in the outline of the Nurburgring track which you will no doubt purchase when you join a bunch of PH Ring Addicts on your first trip.
8 - Aluminum sills look great but they are a bitch to keep clean in the winter.
9 - Tinted top screen is standard UK spec but it is a no cost delete option.
DAZ
:takinganorakoff:
All the above was the situation with Porsche GB in January 2002 when I took a particular interest in options.
>> Edited by dazren on Saturday 14th December 00:41
Yer, I wasn't keen on one of the aerokitted turbos we had on work ex, kept grounding on all the speed bumps.
Can't the weaponary be mounted elsewhere?
I think, with my list of options it was in the region of £95k
Although from what you've said I think that has dropped considerably (sp?)
Is 25+ a good age to purchase such a beast, money and points on license permitting.
Can't the weaponary be mounted elsewhere?
I think, with my list of options it was in the region of £95k
Although from what you've said I think that has dropped considerably (sp?)
Is 25+ a good age to purchase such a beast, money and points on license permitting.
You can mount bits ontop the dash. But a morpheous and "garage door" operation unit looks quit tidy in the Din slot. 
£95k with those options they've obviously put the prices up. I wouldn't worry about your price dropping as you've forgot the X50 power upgrade.
25 would be bloody amazing, unless you're an underpaid footballer.
DAZ
£95k with those options they've obviously put the prices up. I wouldn't worry about your price dropping as you've forgot the X50 power upgrade.
25 would be bloody amazing, unless you're an underpaid footballer.
DAZ
Sounds like a nice spec car...That Porsche configurator should carry some sort of warning,they should really make you sure you want to enter it before getting hooked.
With respect to the sports seats,they are only electrically adjustable on the incline of the back rest,the fore / aft of the squab is on a standard manual lever as is the height of squab on a seperate lever.I think they are a bargain at about £250 odd,they also have a leather map pocket in the backrest which i do not beleive is on the stsndard armchairs.You can get them heated but not with the lumbar as that is in the backrest.
Enough rambling if you can do it,do it.
If you are even remotely concerned about what your parents think.Explain to them that by buying this there is no possibility that you could get an expensive drug habit that would ruin your life and that it is actually a very responsible thing to buy on that basis.....Good luck!
With respect to the sports seats,they are only electrically adjustable on the incline of the back rest,the fore / aft of the squab is on a standard manual lever as is the height of squab on a seperate lever.I think they are a bargain at about £250 odd,they also have a leather map pocket in the backrest which i do not beleive is on the stsndard armchairs.You can get them heated but not with the lumbar as that is in the backrest.
Enough rambling if you can do it,do it.
If you are even remotely concerned about what your parents think.Explain to them that by buying this there is no possibility that you could get an expensive drug habit that would ruin your life and that it is actually a very responsible thing to buy on that basis.....Good luck!
The x50 has been debated extensively on the Rennlist forum.
The conclusion seems to be £8k is not that much extra on the price of the car (?)
Secondly it is the fastest 4wd porsche available giving close to GT2 power,if you want the top Turbo,you buy it,maybe an ego thing? Otherwise just get a C2 / C4...
One additional thing is that if the car has X50 then there is no problem with the manufacturers warranty.If you decide you want to tune it at a later date,you can very easily void your warranty.
The impression I got from the discussion was that 420 bhp was adequate but was not the top banana.
With my C2 on the road I am not far behind a turbo at all,it gets it's legs above 100mph.The difference with x50 to regular turbo is found at higher rpm.
Personally I wouldn't bother with it,the cars are more than quick enough.
The conclusion seems to be £8k is not that much extra on the price of the car (?)
Secondly it is the fastest 4wd porsche available giving close to GT2 power,if you want the top Turbo,you buy it,maybe an ego thing? Otherwise just get a C2 / C4...
One additional thing is that if the car has X50 then there is no problem with the manufacturers warranty.If you decide you want to tune it at a later date,you can very easily void your warranty.
The impression I got from the discussion was that 420 bhp was adequate but was not the top banana.
With my C2 on the road I am not far behind a turbo at all,it gets it's legs above 100mph.The difference with x50 to regular turbo is found at higher rpm.
Personally I wouldn't bother with it,the cars are more than quick enough.
My thoughts exactly, for £8k you could buy a nice 2nd hand Land Rover Defender to play off road in, and you can't do more than 70mph in this country anyway...well not legally and I'm sure a normal turbo is more than fun on the autobahns.
So what do you rekon the insurance will be like for a 17 year old, I could take bets to how many companies would laugh at me.
So what do you rekon the insurance will be like for a 17 year old, I could take bets to how many companies would laugh at me.
Okay, maybe it's just me, but i'd rather buy a 993 GT2 for a lot less money, and have a 993 C2 as a daily driver with the change....
There is a 993 GT2 going at a certain UK specialist car dealer right now - it's guards red, has air con, and 67,000km on the clock. All for 74,995 quid.
Spend another 20k and you've got a nice LHD 993 to use every day, like Scotster's old car.
Just my £0.02 worth.
:-)
www.VerySideways.com
There is a 993 GT2 going at a certain UK specialist car dealer right now - it's guards red, has air con, and 67,000km on the clock. All for 74,995 quid.
Spend another 20k and you've got a nice LHD 993 to use every day, like Scotster's old car.
Just my £0.02 worth.
:-)
www.VerySideways.com
fair point V sideways,,,,One reason I do not hanker after a 996TT perhaps as much as I should is that I do not want to get away from 2wd with the lump in the back.having read your other posts and looked at your website with your very desirable 4S,I notice that the two cars you mention above are 2wd.
I was a little suprised as I thought you were 4wd through & through having read some of your posts ?
I was a little suprised as I thought you were 4wd through & through having read some of your posts ?
rich1231 said: Daz,
no offense taken. I have indeed grounded the Aerokited monster on a few occassions, not on speed bumps but on excessive road camber. I still think it looks the nuts though.
Rich
Rich.
I've grounded the front of my non-spoiler kitted car a number of times Eg if I visit my brothers flat coming out of his underground car park I have to traverse the car across the pavement and gutter (at 45 degrees) due to the camber of the road. I know the spoiler on the kitted car protrudes even further and possibly lower?
Have you had visible paint damage as a result of grounding? I saw a dark blue turbo at Mallory Park in May which was chipped to buggery on the lower spoiler aside from the drivers side wing mirror having been ripped off. Since then I've been a little weary of them even if the full kit does make the car look even more menacing.
cheers
DAZ
PS - Ref X50 debate, pay your money and take your choice. I sleep happy knowing I went that route and I have passenger comments from various exotica drivers reinforcing my belief that it makes the car truely ballistic. If anyone is going to buy one of these cars try and get a drive/ride in both (or speak to me at a PH event).
>> Edited by dazren on Sunday 15th December 12:48
dazren said: Sounds good.
A couple of observations so the salespeople recognise you as a full on porsche nut geek (A la Me, DeR, Domster, scottster, iguana, etc.....).
1 - Not going for the spoiler kit is a good idea (IMHO, sorry Rich1231). The front spoiler when painted tends to chip if you nudge kerbs, the plastic on the non spoiler kitted cars don't, Manu and sb930flatnose will back me up on this issue!!
Daz,
Sure I can vouch for that!........hit the underside of the front spoiler on a ramp going into a car park last week...took some(more)paint off.
Steve
clubsport said: fair point V sideways,,,,One reason I do not hanker after a 996TT perhaps as much as I should is that I do not want to get away from 2wd with the lump in the back.having read your other posts and looked at your website with your very desirable 4S,I notice that the two cars you mention above are 2wd.
I was a little suprised as I thought you were 4wd through & through having read some of your posts ?
If i could afford a GT2 i would, but what's more likely to happen "in real life" is at some point in the near future i will buy a 993 Turbo4.
It'd be lovely to source a set of GT2 split rims, a GT2 front splitter and rear spoiler/decklid, and still have the comforts of air con and heated seats and sound deadening and 4wd traction.
Probably follow derestrictors route and go for the 490bhp...
I like the extras that the 4S gives over the 2S and i like the widebody, that's why i went for the 4S. Those brakes kill me everytime, and the 4wd makes slides very sustainable with good directional control.
Going back to my 996TT alternative, i'd love to go for the 993GT2 and keep my C4S as a daily driver, if the budget would stretch to that...
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Fair point VS,it's just that I find driving 2wd cars SO different to 4wd...I appreciate the additional kit on the 4S which makes it a less powerful turbo...where as the 2S seems to be a lardy 2 with less braking.
To be fair I am probably not good enough to keep a GT2 on the road and above 400bhp the 4wd & PSM is probably close to essential.
There is definitely something with the 993TT,it would be an event everytime you took it out for a spin,,,good luck with your choice.
To be fair I am probably not good enough to keep a GT2 on the road and above 400bhp the 4wd & PSM is probably close to essential.
There is definitely something with the 993TT,it would be an event everytime you took it out for a spin,,,good luck with your choice.
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