My stunning 3.2 Club Sport is for sale
My stunning 3.2 Club Sport is for sale
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andy tims

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274 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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Check out the classifieds

www.pistonheads.com/sales/65227.htm

Marki

15,763 posts

298 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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Wow what a pretty car

sambaman

3,991 posts

252 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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nice car andy !!! you should come do a deal with my GT3

www.911-heaven.co.uk

davyboy

746 posts

283 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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A lovely car!

But are they really worth the same or more than an 964RS? I can't see how that works?

Dave

andy tims

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Sunday 12th February 2006
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Dave - It's the rarity that makes the CS worth so much - 340 worldwide & 53 UK cars is a lot less than the 964RS (or even the 2.7RS).
Agreed that objectively they are not twice as good as a regular 3.2 Carrera, but then again nor is a 964RS twice as good as a C2 etc etc.

clubsport

7,408 posts

286 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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davyboy said:
A lovely car!

But are they really worth the same or more than an 964RS? I can't see how that works?

Dave


You are comparing a rhd 3.2 CS with a lhd 964RS...53 UK rhd CS,,,about 1500 lhd 964RS,,,A rhd 964RS is much rarer and above or below 40,000 pounds depending on condition.

The 3.2 CS is a fantastic car, I really enjoyed the time I spent on road and track with mine, it is a better road car than a 964RS, where as a 64RS is a better track car....particularly smooth tracks.

A 3.2 CS has always been a sound purchase, definitely a the question is are they now worth nearly double a 3.2 Sport??

This looks like an immaculate well kept car, with supply/demand being what it is for a CS, I expect this car will be sold very soon

 • Sorry Andy, I didn't see your post as I was typing!*

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polarexpress

6,796 posts

255 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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But on track, who cares if the car is LHD or RHD?

If the car is being used on track, and it's a pre-996 911, then LHD has got to be the more desirable given the superior driving and pedal position... Begs the question about a lot of the upper-end RHD 964RS... too harsh for the road, too pricey for the track? Hmmm...

davyboy

746 posts

283 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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I realise the rarity - but if I wanted a track 911 and I had 30k......well you already know the rest.

Please don't think I am slagging your car or price off - just adding to a bit of discussion

andy tims

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Sunday 12th February 2006
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Dave - no offence taken in the least.

Hardly any of us buy these cars with complete objectivity - it's about passion / desire etc. other than the cold hearted speculator - but I doubt any of those post here.

rubystone

11,254 posts

287 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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clubsport said:
[quote=davyboy]A lovely car!

You are comparing a rhd 3.2 CS with a lhd 964RS...53 UK rhd CS,,,about 1500 lhd 964RS,,,A rhd 964RS is much rarer and above or below 40,000 pounds depending on condition.


Didn't Porsche produce only 47 RHD 964 RS - recently I've spotted an RHD Rubystone (best colour, natch) for sale for about £36k...?

IMHO, the 964RS is so much more specialised than the CS and has a racing lineage - although I do recall a rather rotund gent race a CS in the Giroflex series back in '87, IIRC.

In addition, I think that anyone buying a CS nowadays is not going to want to track it. Certainly if I was looking for one I'd want one that was totally original - which for me would rule Andy's car out of the question as it's clearly been on track and quiet extensively I'd guess, given the mods. Oddly enough, that wouldn't be a factor in my buying another 964RS - their every fibre screams "track day" and there's really no need to modify them at all in order to have fun on track.

All my personal opinion though and it does seem that any CSs do not hang around for very long at all - wish I'd been quick enough to buy that lhd one that Paul Stephens had for sale last year - about £13k IIRC!

andy tims

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Sunday 12th February 2006
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Rubystone - This is not a 964RS vs 3.2 CS thread. If you want to argue "my cars better than yours" there are plenty of opportunities to join in with that elsewhere. If you want to snipe at my individual car then please do so one to one.

rubystone said:

IMHO, the 964RS is so much more specialised than the CS and has a racing lineage - although I do recall a rather rotund gent race a CS in the Giroflex series back in '87, IIRC.

Although the CS was not a homologation special & has nothing like the racing heritage the RS has, to quote Porsche themselves the CS was designed to be driven to the track, raced, then driven home. Many were & some still are campaigned in a variety of series world wide, including by the likes of Steve Soper. RS's are out and out race cars made road legal, the CS is a road car with track potential (no one ever suggested to the contrary), that can be substantially improved with a few tried & tested upgrades.

rubystone said:

In addition, I think that anyone buying a CS nowadays is not going to want to track it.
You are wrong - I have tracked mine for two years - not as extensively as you speculate (about 10 days actually) and several other current owners do likewise. In fact one changed hands last year that had done 15,000 miles around the Ring.

rubystone said:

Certainly if I was looking for one I'd want one that was totally original
Well if you actually took the trouble to read the advert before posting, you would have see that I have all the original bits & that the car can be easily converted back to stock. None of the mods I have undertaken are invasive.

rubystone said:

it's clearly been on track
Yes, that is exactly what Porsche intended for it

rubystone said:

and quiet extensively I'd guess, given the mods.
You guessed wrong.

rubystone said:

All my personal opinion though and it does seem that any CSs do not hang around for very long at all - wish I'd been quick enough to buy that lhd one that Paul Stephens had for sale last year - about £13k IIRC!
Well if you do remember correctly (and I doubt that very much indeed) I think the CS community would have heard about it and it would have had to have been an absolute dog.


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glenn mcmenamin

2,305 posts

266 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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Car looks stunning Andy !!!!


What are you going to replace it with ??????



G.

andy tims

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Sunday 12th February 2006
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Cheers Glenn

Put a deposit down on a LHD GT3 MkI Club Sport yesterday. Head over the the "another new owner" thread PCGB GT3 Forum thread for more info.

Gutted to have to sell the CS but can't afford them both.

c2look

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253 months

Sunday 12th February 2006
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Your car looks fantastic Andy If only I could lay me hands on some cash........

rubystone

11,254 posts

287 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Andy, indeed, I know that if it were a dog I could make 2 calls to establish that fact (I'm a PCGB member too!)

I was just expressing my opinion - something I am entitled to do

Dom yhm mate

gfreeman

1,768 posts

278 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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[quote=rubystone.

- wish I'd been quick enough to buy that lhd one that Paul Stephens had for sale last year - about £13k IIRC![/quote]

????? are you sure you're not getting muddled with the white SC they had for £12,995???

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iguana

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288 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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I do seem to recall PS having a black lhd Cs in a while back, can't remember the price to be fair, & obviously they are worth less than RHD cos not one of the 53 yadda yadd etc etc.

andy tims

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Monday 13th February 2006
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iguana said:
I do seem to recall PS having a black lhd Cs in a while back, can't remember the price to be fair, & obviously they are worth less than RHD cos not one of the 53 yadda yadd etc etc.


Well list of cars Paul has sold on his website includes a regular 1989 G plate Carrera Sport in Grand Prix White 55,848 miles sold for £21,995 & the CS gfreeman mentions, but no Black Club Sport & that list looks like it goes back well over a year.

rubystone

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287 months

Monday 13th February 2006
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Paul did have an lhd car that had been track prepared - it sold very quickly about a year ago and for cheap money

POORCARDEALER

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Monday 13th February 2006
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Looks like a lovely CS and very rare too...........you couldnt give 964 RS s away in years gone past (sub £20K trade for a decent car)...........if only I had a crystal ball