DMS chip on 997s
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Grey area...he was told that if the insurance men could detact it, they'd be in the chipping business not isurance!
Interestingly, they are doing around 4 997s a day at the moment too - certainly popular. I had a 'mildly altered' (355 bhp on rolling road) 996 targa a couple of years ago and at no point did the OPC make any noise when it was in for work.
Interestingly, they are doing around 4 997s a day at the moment too - certainly popular. I had a 'mildly altered' (355 bhp on rolling road) 996 targa a couple of years ago and at no point did the OPC make any noise when it was in for work.
lambojim said:
Grey area...he was told that if the insurance men could detact it, they'd be in the chipping business not isurance!
Interestingly, they are doing around 4 997s a day at the moment too - certainly popular. I had a 'mildly altered' (355 bhp on rolling road) 996 targa a couple of years ago and at no point did the OPC make any noise when it was in for work.
If your mate has a serious accident where someone gets hurt, belive me the insurance co has the resources via 3rd parties to check every part of the car, even if the accident 'was not his fault'. This includes the ECU and other engine, brake and suspension components. Wouldn't like to be in a 'no payout' scenario if something nasty happens.
lambojim said:
Grey area...he was told that if the insurance men could detact it, they'd be in the chipping business not isurance!
Interestingly, they are doing around 4 997s a day at the moment too - certainly popular. I had a 'mildly altered' (355 bhp on rolling road) 996 targa a couple of years ago and at no point did the OPC make any noise when it was in for work.
you have any connection with dms ?
I had some warranty work done on my BMW 330d - it was DMS'd. The work involved the air mass meter, ie; directly involved with the engine management. They didn't have a clue as to the modification, even though they had it plugged into the diagnostics computer ...... The dealer downloaded their standard prog. for the mapping when they installed the new component 
, but DMS re-loaded the upgrade for free 
.... BTW, No connection, just a satisfied customer...
, but DMS re-loaded the upgrade for free .... BTW, No connection, just a satisfied customer...The dealers cannot see what date it was re-flashed, as the ECU's doesn't use a caledar/clock.
They can see that it has been re-flashed though and they can see how many times its been flashed. Factory units will only ever have 1 in the flash counter. Dealers, when doing work on the car, will only ever reset the ECU, forcing it to re-learn its correction values. This isn't a re-flash and it will just wipe the volatile memory.
As advised, I would be very careful about not telling your insurance co as most of the loss adjusters have ECU readers now.
As for making a warranty claim, I would come clean and tell them. In both this and the insurance instance, not telling them would be fraud and you could find yourself uninsurable as a result. As tuning has become more sophisticated, so have manufacturer techniques in limiting their claims liability.
They can see that it has been re-flashed though and they can see how many times its been flashed. Factory units will only ever have 1 in the flash counter. Dealers, when doing work on the car, will only ever reset the ECU, forcing it to re-learn its correction values. This isn't a re-flash and it will just wipe the volatile memory.
As advised, I would be very careful about not telling your insurance co as most of the loss adjusters have ECU readers now.
As for making a warranty claim, I would come clean and tell them. In both this and the insurance instance, not telling them would be fraud and you could find yourself uninsurable as a result. As tuning has become more sophisticated, so have manufacturer techniques in limiting their claims liability.
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