Discussion
Just wondering if the PCCB is worth ordering. I got wind of a lot of trouble last year (and the year before last) that these brakes, whilst good for road use, would fall to pieces on the track. I heard that once up to temperature, track use would go through them in about 10,000 miles. I also heard that Porsche were giving owners the middle finger, and saying 'Not for track use etc etc'.
Any PCCB owners with anything good to say? I'm tempted, but worried.
Any PCCB owners with anything good to say? I'm tempted, but worried.
Do a search of "PCCB" on this forum and you should find enough info to put you off if you intend using the cars performance.
I would steer clear. The latest PCCB2 are supposed to be better than the originals, I wouldn't take the risk. If porsche want to establish some credibility on this forum for PCCB2s then I give them the challenge of putting gratis sets onto GuyR and GT2 Henry's GT2s and lets see how long the discs last.
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Friday 7th April 18:24
I would steer clear. The latest PCCB2 are supposed to be better than the originals, I wouldn't take the risk. If porsche want to establish some credibility on this forum for PCCB2s then I give them the challenge of putting gratis sets onto GuyR and GT2 Henry's GT2s and lets see how long the discs last.
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Friday 7th April 18:24
The paradox of PCCB.
Promoted by Porsche for the track but ruined by some.
Whilst as a new build option at £5k they are reasonable for the advantages of 1. No disc corrosion 2. They are very good 3. Reduced weight -- particularly valuable being unsprung and 4. They look good ?
They seem very expensive if ruined (I believe only by determined trackuse ?) due to £10k replacement costs ?
Many also destroy the standard steel discs and repolace them with ANOthers ---m much cover on this forum.
The general consensus therefore seems to be: Use them as Porsche intended and they are a waste of £5k. Use them for fast road work, and they are rather good --- because they should also last as long as three sets of steel discs.
Agreed ?
(My turn to stick my head above the parapet --- I have PCCB on my GT3 !)
Promoted by Porsche for the track but ruined by some.
Whilst as a new build option at £5k they are reasonable for the advantages of 1. No disc corrosion 2. They are very good 3. Reduced weight -- particularly valuable being unsprung and 4. They look good ?
They seem very expensive if ruined (I believe only by determined trackuse ?) due to £10k replacement costs ?
Many also destroy the standard steel discs and repolace them with ANOthers ---m much cover on this forum.
The general consensus therefore seems to be: Use them as Porsche intended and they are a waste of £5k. Use them for fast road work, and they are rather good --- because they should also last as long as three sets of steel discs.
Agreed ?
(My turn to stick my head above the parapet --- I have PCCB on my GT3 !)
Yep, I've got several duff pairs in my garage as expensive ornaments.
On a roadcar, driven normally, they'll probably (?) last, but go to track or drive the car hard and they'll fail just like PCCB1 I'd guess.
Dealers will pay no extra come trade-in, so £5k is a lot of expense to save cleaning the wheels.......... (although the weight saving is nice to have to be fair.
If Porsche had any brains they'd make exchange replacement discs £2k per pair and this entire issue would go away, as then they'd only be as costly per mile to run as normal discs and then people would spec them on new cars without fear.
Guy
I'd love the PCCBs, but am going to be driving the Porsche quite hard. I'm not far from the'Ring, and I'll be there a fair bit for a start. Doesn't sound like an option for me, unfortunately. Not if they can't make them work for the purpose they were designed and are reluctant to cop to their failure. Maybe with PCCB3.
The trouble is that even if Porsche said that they were a trackable option, their warraty history is so bad nobody would believe them.
I reckon GuyR that you are right. At £2k ish per axle as replacements Porsche would make them a credible risk.
As an aside, proof of the dealer view, I paid nothing for my PCCB's, but have been delighted with them. I had forgotten they also keep the wheels clean !
I reckon GuyR that you are right. At £2k ish per axle as replacements Porsche would make them a credible risk.
As an aside, proof of the dealer view, I paid nothing for my PCCB's, but have been delighted with them. I had forgotten they also keep the wheels clean !
colin5577 said:
I'd love the PCCBs, but am going to be driving the Porsche quite hard. I'm not far from the'Ring, and I'll be there a fair bit for a start. Doesn't sound like an option for me, unfortunately. Not if they can't make them work for the purpose they were designed and are reluctant to cop to their failure. Maybe with PCCB3.
They might be ok on the ring, I've never been but get the impression that it isn't so hard on brakes? Not worth the premium though. Mine are now boxed and sat in my lounge at the moment...
ChrisW. said:
Dan, since nobody will pay extra for them, why are they in a box in the living room ?
You may as well give them to me, just in-case I destroy mine ...
Because I will pop them back on come trade in. It was a bit gutting taking them off to be honest as all 4 of them weigh about the same as 1 of the steels I replaced them with. Still, it is a lot of weight off my wallet
For a purely road car I'd tempted to spec them though.
dazren said:
Do a search of "PCCB" on this forum and you should find enough info to put you off if you intend using the cars performance.
I would steer clear. The latest PCCB2 are supposed to be better than the originals, I wouldn't take the risk. If porsche want to establish some credibility on this forum for PCCB2s then I give them the challenge of putting gratis sets onto GuyR and GT2 Henry's GT2s and lets see how long the discs last.
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Friday 7th April 18:24
...and a set for me please
Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff