996GT2 VS 997GT3 !!
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I always preferred N/A and had never even bothered driving a turbo car until I test drove a GT2. It changed my opinion... try it. There is a big difference between the power delivery on something like a GT2 compared to say a Subaru or Noble M12. That said, if I could have 500 normally aspirated horses then yes I would have this over 500 turbo charged horses, but then you're into CGT money I believe. I wish... 
R1_JON said:
I always preferred N/A and had never even bothered driving a turbo car until I test drove a GT2. It changed my opinion... try it. There is a big difference between the power delivery on something like a GT2 compared to say a Subaru or Noble M12. That said, if I could have 500 normally aspirated horses then yes I would have this over 500 turbo charged horses, but then you're into CGT money I believe. I wish...
I think the Japanese 2000cc turbo cars are great too...
Can you tell me what is the big different between the power delivery on a GT2 and Subaru?
997GT3 n/a 415hp and 996GT2 turbo 485hp, you still perfer the GT3?
GT2 said:
I always preferred N/A and had never even bothered driving a turbo car until I test drove a GT2. It changed my opinion... try it. There is a big difference between the power delivery on something like a GT2 compared to say a Subaru or Noble M12. That said, if I could have 500 normally aspirated horses then yes I would have this over 500 turbo charged horses, but then you're into CGT money I believe. I wish...
I think the Japanese 2000cc turbo cars are great too...
Can you tell me what is the big different between the power delivery on a GT2 and Subaru?
997GT3 n/a 415hp and 996GT2 turbo 485hp, you still perfer the GT3?
The difference is in the delivery. My experience of Subaru's and similar cars is like this:
...nothing....nothing....nothing....then sudden surge of power. Which is all very well in a straight line, but if that surge occurs entering a corner it isn't ideal.
I find the GT2 a lot more progressive, I'm assuming this is because it has two turbos. You still get the kick, but it still has power in the lower rev range too.
In your example I would still choose the GT2 personally, but that's just me, I would think most people here would choose the GT3. Some would say I could never fully exploit the 415hp of the GT3 and they would probably be right. My answer is I find the GT2 more fun and I can easily chip it to 550hp for more fun.
If you are going to do a lot of trackdays a year, then I would say you are better with the GT3.
Have you driven a GT2 or 3 yet?
I have driven a 996GT3 with some upgrade. That car is fast and the handling is very good. So I think the 997GT3 must be good too and I love the looks more than the 996, but I always want a turbo car because I love the sudden surge of power.
On track the GT3 is faster?
GT3 can rev up to 8500 rpm. What about GT2?
On track the GT3 is faster?
GT3 can rev up to 8500 rpm. What about GT2?
IMHO the GT3s deliver a purer driving experience with a chassis, power and grip in pretty much gloriously balanced harmony. Very 'fine' speed.
The GT2 is relatively a monster with an excess of power over grip. A real challenge, with higher stakes too, because you'll be going faster.
So perhaps ask yourself, EXACTLY what do you want from the next car? Where EXACTLY do you get your buzz? Refine the answer again and again.
For me, it's the GT2 but everyone will be different.
The GT2 is relatively a monster with an excess of power over grip. A real challenge, with higher stakes too, because you'll be going faster.
So perhaps ask yourself, EXACTLY what do you want from the next car? Where EXACTLY do you get your buzz? Refine the answer again and again.
For me, it's the GT2 but everyone will be different.
ph123 said:
IMHO the GT3s deliver a purer driving experience with a chassis, power and grip in pretty much gloriously balanced harmony. Very 'fine' speed.
The GT2 is relatively a monster with an excess of power over grip. A real challenge, with higher stakes too, because you'll be going faster.
So perhaps ask yourself, EXACTLY what do you want from the next car? Where EXACTLY do you get your buzz? Refine the answer again and again.
For me, it's the GT2 but everyone will be different.
Good summary, although I beg to differ about it being a monster or widow maker or having an excess of power over grip. In the wet yes it is a handful, but then isn't any high power rear wheel drive car? In the dry I think it has more than enough grip for the power as standard, I can imagine it becomes a bit silly with 600+hp though.
GT2 said:That's very debatable - many would say that a well driven GT2 is quicker around the track - it can be a bit of a handfull on the road, but you quickly learn to adapt your driving style.
On track the GT3 is faster?
GT3 can rev up to 8500 rpm. What about GT2?
The GT2 is much lower reving - I believe only about 6600rpm....
For me, I think it would be the GT2, but with some minor suspension/geometry mods to make it more user friendly........
The power, as well as being greater, is also more accessible IMO..... because you don't have to constantly keep it on the boil - which for the majority of us non racers, is better. Plus the GT2 is arguably 'THE' best looking 996 ever......
GT2 said:
On track the GT3 is faster?
GT3 can rev up to 8500 rpm. What about GT2?
I would think it depends on the track, although I am sure someone on here can verify. At the ring my guess would be the GT2 is a bit quick, on a shorter track, probably the GT3. Both in expert hands. In not so expert hands (mine !!) the GT3 is probably quicker.
I am bound to leap to the defence of a GT2! Mine is blessed with 638bhp and 818nm of torque courtesy of Ruf who also ensured that the suspension geometry was spot on. Whilst the car demands respect and the correct driver inputs it is not by any stretch of the imagaination a wayward car. It goes where you want, when you want it and very quickly too! The wet holds no fear either. Grip levels are massive and the power delivery astonishing in all conditions. 99.999% of road cars in existence have no answer for these epic cars which are now as cheap as chips!
GT2 said:
Hello Gt2,,,prefer n/a myself....tell us about your GT2...is it standard???
I don't have a GT2 and I want one... so you perfer the GT3, why?
I much prefer the power delivery of normally aspirated engines and having driven Gt3...the engine in the gt3 rs is probably the best porsche engine I have ever experienced. I really don't have the need or the driving ability to adequately make use of that level of power anyhow.
R1 Jon - As long as my front wheels are pointing amidships I can nail it in the wet. Depending on conditions and grip I get some wheelspin so I might moderate it to nailing less a bit. The car will track straight and true - just watch out for standing water which can catch you out (but this is the case in anything). Many an Evo and Scooby driver has pulled up alongside expecting to get their own way in the wet but the Yellow Peril is half a mile down the road before I ease off and let them catch up - just to see the look of amazement on their faces!
As for the twisty bits in the wet, once grip levels are established and throttle inputs adjusted accordingly there is nothing to worry about - naturally applying a bootfull of throttle mid corner will end in tears but you can carry plenty of speed in and around any corner and nail it as above. Tighter corners need to be taken off throttle (but at big speeds) so all the grip is available to the fronts, take an early apex, point the nose in a straight line, apply max chat and watch it go.
I learn't all this from John Bussell (former Porsche Cup champ who also trained Rupert Lewin) It is not until you apply such teachings properly do you realise what an awesome bit of kit a GT2 is! Incidentally - I reckon this more powerful Ruf car is easier to drive than the standard car. You are welcome to come and see for yourself!
As for the twisty bits in the wet, once grip levels are established and throttle inputs adjusted accordingly there is nothing to worry about - naturally applying a bootfull of throttle mid corner will end in tears but you can carry plenty of speed in and around any corner and nail it as above. Tighter corners need to be taken off throttle (but at big speeds) so all the grip is available to the fronts, take an early apex, point the nose in a straight line, apply max chat and watch it go.
I learn't all this from John Bussell (former Porsche Cup champ who also trained Rupert Lewin) It is not until you apply such teachings properly do you realise what an awesome bit of kit a GT2 is! Incidentally - I reckon this more powerful Ruf car is easier to drive than the standard car. You are welcome to come and see for yourself!
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