996 v Maserati 4200 spyder
996 v Maserati 4200 spyder
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jonny996

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2,716 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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I swaped cars with my friend for an hour, my 98 996 tiptronic V's his 04 4.2 spyder flappy paddle.
I could not get over the diffrence, the maza felt so angry, good fun for an hour but it would soon become very tiresome. He could not get over how easy the 996 is to drive.

When we got back we looked up the net to see how much faster his car was... I was shocked to find it has the same performance figures, it felt so much faster. or is it that porsche don't have to shout from the rooftops about there performance..

Anyway I would take the 996 anyday given the choice

Steve_M

598 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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Seeing as the Power to weight ratios of both cars are the same performance wise they are going to be very similar. The extra 400kg carried by the Maserati will be it's undoing drivewise, but the extra torque it produces is what makes it feel more energetic.

ballcock

3,855 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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Have to agree .. got a drive in one recently and found it almost unusable in terms of throttle/tip .. Great sound off the horsey engine though ...

R1_JON

859 posts

272 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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The Maserati doesn't suffer from RMS though...

maxxuk

341 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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I though the rms thing was just for yesterday. or are we having an RMS awareness week ??

vpr

3,930 posts

267 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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R1_JON said:
The Maserati doesn't suffer from RMS though...


correct it won't suffer from RMS but it'll suffer from almost every other disease known to car.
A heap of Italian junk.....and I know....IMHO of coarse.

R1_JON

859 posts

272 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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vpr said:
R1_JON said:
The Maserati doesn't suffer from RMS though...


correct it won't suffer from RMS but it'll suffer from almost every other disease known to car.
A heap of Italian junk.....and I know....IMHO of coarse.


Agreed, I think they are hideous creations !!! Each to their own though...

inkyboy360

109 posts

251 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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How can 390bhp in a 4200 spider equal a standard 996?

My missues drives hers daily and with a TUBI it sounds mega!!

I think the Masa is faster accelerating thats for sure as I drove my friends 996 back to back and it's defo not as aggressive on the up, and with the F1 box it's way quicker on the downs. Fiona's car is the latest as it changed in 05 to a different car, with much better chassis and gearbox rework, and a glass rear window for better rear view.

I'd say handling they are completey different beasts and suit toally different driving styles.

I'm not sure how you can call a stunning car like the 4200 Spider hideous when Porsche can't be ar5ed to build anything quite so beautiful.

>> Edited by inkyboy360 on Friday 12th May 00:45

R1_JON

859 posts

272 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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inkyboy360 said:
How can 390bhp in a 4200 spider equal a standard 996?


Do you mean why are they similar in performance? I would guess because they have similar power to weight ratios:

Maser - 229.94 bhp/ton
996 - 234.2 bhp/ton

Steve_M

598 posts

264 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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A 1998 3.4L 996 is quoted as 300bhp, 230bhp per tonne and 0-60 4.6secs
A Maserati 4200 spyder is quoted as 390bhp, 229bhp per tonne and 0-60 4.9secs.

On paper they are very even, not driven a 4200 but would expect it to pull better than a 996 due to midrange torque. I had a jag XKR and it felt much quicker midrange and that is similar figures to the 4200. but you try following a 996 on a windy road.

R1_JON

859 posts

272 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Steve_M said:
A 1998 3.4L 996 is quoted as 300bhp, 230bhp per tonne and 0-60 4.6secs
A Maserati 4200 spyder is quoted as 390bhp, 229bhp per tonne and 0-60 4.9secs.

On paper they are very even, not driven a 4200 but would expect it to pull better than a 996 due to midrange torque. I had a jag XKR and it felt much quicker midrange and that is similar figures to the 4200. but you try following a 996 on a windy road.


XKR felt fast? Really? I borrowed a mates XKR in the US last week for a couple of hours drive. It felt monumentally slow to me. I do like the shape of the car though.

Edited because I should be in bed and can't spell.

>> Edited by R1_JON on Friday 12th May 00:47

Steve_M

598 posts

264 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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In a straight line it was great 400ft/lb torque was great. I went out with a load of Boxster guys and the XKR was gaining on them all guns blazing, but as soon as the turny bits arrived I was losing ground all the time.
If you use the XKR J box as a semi auto selecting gears as you would with a maual it drives so much better, using the full rev range and engine braking on the kick down, I loved it, just a bit of an old mans car :flamesuiton:

R1_JON

859 posts

272 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Blimey, quite suprised it was gaining on Boxsters. Not sure if I was in sports mode or not. The roads are so tedious in the US I never really 'try'...

Steve_M

598 posts

264 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Where in the states are you? I'm on business in Houston right now.

R1_JON

859 posts

272 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Was in the Bay area last week...

vpr

3,930 posts

267 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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inkyboy360 said:

Not sure how you can call a stunning car like the 4200 Spider hideous when Porsche can't be ar5ed to build anything quite so beautiful.

>> Edited by inkyboy360 on Friday 12th May 00:45


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....so each to there own other wise we'd all be chasing the same woman.

One the worst things about the Maser is the scuttle shake and the steering wheel jumping out of your hands on bumpy corners. I've driven and still own some primitive old sports cars that don't do this. Hidious

r1_jon

859 posts

272 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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inkyboy360 said:


I'm not sure how you can call a stunning car like the 4200 Spider hideous when Porsche can't be ar5ed to build anything quite so beautiful.



Erm... because I don't like the look of them maybe !! I just think they are visually ugly. If you like them then great, I'm happy for you. Each to their own and all that. You may think my car is ugly, that's fine by me...

vpr

3,930 posts

267 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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r1 jon........I dont think your car is ugly.......infact I want it

ballcock

3,855 posts

248 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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This thread has gotten me into trouble! .. A 'friend' of mine has gone all huffy with me cause I dared slight his mazza , making insinuations as to similar performance figures between his and mine!!
I also never realised how much he looked down on my basement C2.
You guys have a lot to answer for...

jonny996

Original Poster:

2,716 posts

246 months

Wednesday 24th May 2006
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Make it up to him by offering him a lift next time his is in the shop.. shouldn't be to long