£30,000 Porker
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melv said: You are in top notch 964 territory, or a cheaper 993 or even better, a 964RS, if you can find one..
Any of the above would be good choices, but what about a Turbo? Your budget would get a nice 930 or Turbo2 with money to spare.
Suppose the answer depends on what you want out of the car? Could even be that one of those funny models with the engine in the wrong place (up front) could fit the bill!
Anyway a nice dilemma!
Chris
Thanks for the idea's. It's only going to be a second (well third if you count the family bus) car so it will be for fun and frolicks alone, like a good blast down to Le Mans. Had considered the 964 but understand they can be less reliable? (More so than the Cerbs that had been on my list) I suppose early 993's will be good in the long term. Any idea's on a thirty grand turbo?
If you want a turbo for fun & trips down to le mans,maybe a lhd car would not be such a problem.
For 30k you scrape into 964 turbo (965?) 3.6 teritory.
these cars are totally awesome & give different thrills to the later 4wd cars....only down side is servicing costs & literally keeping them on the road..
I would personally go with a 993 coupe over any other Porsche for £30k,a truly fantastic car.
>> Edited by clubsport on Tuesday 21st January 13:42
For 30k you scrape into 964 turbo (965?) 3.6 teritory.
these cars are totally awesome & give different thrills to the later 4wd cars....only down side is servicing costs & literally keeping them on the road..
I would personally go with a 993 coupe over any other Porsche for £30k,a truly fantastic car.
>> Edited by clubsport on Tuesday 21st January 13:42
C3 GTK said:Had considered the 964 but understand they can be less reliable? (More so than the Cerbs that had been on my list)
ROTFLMAO!!! Errr, I don't think so. The 964 costs marginally more to service than a 993, mainly because it does not have hydraulic tappets. A few minor things go wrong on them compared to a post 1995 993, but these things are not major headaches. See the buying guide on 964s in the Porsche section of the main site.
As for the turbo, you could get a LHD 3.6 or RHD 3.3 965 Turbo 2 for that. In fact, my friend may be selling his RHD Turbo 3.3 with 400bhp if you are interested, for 28k. You won't get near a 993 Turbo unless you accept LHD, and then you're into the thirties by a few grand.
If it is a second/third car, I would still consider the RS. A 964RS is far more *exciting* than any Turbo I can think of (non GT2), even if slower than something like a 996TT or Derestrictor's 993TT. Hmmm, you have to experience them to appreciate it. Derestrictor's 490bhp 993 felt like a Lexus (tuned by Han Solo) compared to my 964RS.
Cheers
Dom
domster said: A 964RS is far more *exciting* than any Turbo I can think of (non GT2), even if slower than something like a 996TT or Derestrictor's 993TT. Hmmm, you have to experience them to appreciate it. Derestrictor's 490bhp 993 felt like a Lexus (tuned by Han Solo) compared to my 964RS.
Cheers
Dom
Funny you should mention it, Sir Domst; I forgot to mention in my last e-mail that I nailed The Kessel Run in ELEVEN par secs!!!
Anyway, excitement takes on a slightly different dimension when tanking past 170, eh Daz?
clubsport said: Can we moderate the perpetual exhuberance for the 964 RS?
Yes they are good cars and I am not putting them down,but they do appeal to a certain type of buyer.
Yes i have driven 2 different examples,many other Porsches have redeeming factors in my opinion.
The question asked originally was what Porsche for 30k. Yes, some of us harp on about the RS, but that is one end of the spectrum. Don kindly mentioned a suitable Boxster, which would suit the needs of an everyday Porsche far better.
To be honest, the second or third car comment doesn't really narrow it down. Some see 924s as racy second cars. I used a Caterham as an everyday car.
Basically, sir has to drive his Porsches and take his choice. I would suggest one from each end of the spectrum and then narrow it from there.
I am selling my RS, but you'll still find me waxing lyrical about them. I have driven a few Porsches (more than most, less than some) and I found it by far the most rewarding of all Porsches to drive quickly. Almost as good as a Caterham, head and shoulders above a standard C2 or 965 Turbo.
If someone posts 'the 30k' question, I'm not going to rattle off the 15 or 20 Porsche model types that *could* fit the bill. Most of them are not classics, despite their redeeming factors.
We have an open forum here, hopefully enjoyed by those with an open mind. If someone wants to promote their 993 C2 Targa Tiptronic as the ideal 30k Porsche, we let them.
Any other nominations?
Domster...totally agree that you have to drive them...I was just winding you 964 RS boys up and was leaning on the moderator angle.I am suprised it took you so long to come back!
to be fair if you consider the numbers sold,particularly in rhd form.One would conclude that there is more interest / demand from the UK Porsche buying public for Tiptronic cabriolets than RS models.
Even though we would both be at odds with this.
to be fair if you consider the numbers sold,particularly in rhd form.One would conclude that there is more interest / demand from the UK Porsche buying public for Tiptronic cabriolets than RS models.
Even though we would both be at odds with this.
clubsport said: Domster...totally agree that you have to drive them...I was just winding you 964 RS boys up and was leaning on the moderator angle.I am suprised it took you so long to come back!
to be fair if you consider the numbers sold,particularly in rhd form.One would conclude that there is more interest / demand from the UK Porsche buying public for Tiptronic cabriolets than RS models.
Even though we would both be at odds with this.
LOL, well that is true.
The 964RS was never made in great numbers, ans as you mention, RHD is a rarity. You can just get them for 30k in RHD.
To be honest, I would probably recommend a 993RS over a 964RS, but they are even sillier money.
For far less money, I suppose a RHD 968CS would cover off the 'enthusiasts' angle quite well.
It amazes me how the Porsches that don't sell much when new (993RSR etc) are always worth more than the more expensive turbos second hand. Could it be that company car owners are buying them new, and enthusiasts buying them s/h?
As for winding the RS boys up, well, you are lucky that Melv considers his Cup car a league above our production metal (as it rightly is!) and that 9M has been sleeping, or working or something.
And Daz and DeR, your cars are seriously impressive (especially in the rain!!). Just have too much interior for my liking
I can't wait for DeR to drive a 993GT2 as he'll have his chequebook in no time... Thanks again to everyone I have some leave due so I think it's time to start doing some driving.
Giw 12: The 30 grand isn't just sitting there it's taken a lot of effort to raise and justify to the missus the cash
But now we have stopped adding sprogs to the planet it's "game on"
Domster: Is the 964RS LHD?
I think I can remove from the list anything with Tip or Cab on it.
Where is the best place to find these cars?????
Giw 12: The 30 grand isn't just sitting there it's taken a lot of effort to raise and justify to the missus the cash
But now we have stopped adding sprogs to the planet it's "game on" Domster: Is the 964RS LHD?
I think I can remove from the list anything with Tip or Cab on it.
Where is the best place to find these cars?????
ultra violent said: Dom, i'd kick your ass in my RS eating T2. Unless of course you insist on an 'off(the)road' section to the race
LOL, yeah, you would in the wet for sure!
In the dry, well, you'll have to get yourself along to 9M's Oulton RS trackday, and we'll see. The Red Baron will be going, and it will be even more of an animal according to a little birdy (not Scottster's missus
). Glad you got that tractor exhaust of it, though. What does it kick out these days?
ATB
Dom
C3 GTK said:
Domster: Is the 964RS LHD?
I think I can remove from the list anything with Tip or Cab on it.
Where is the best place to find these cars?????
The RS is available LHD and RHD, but RHD is very, very rare. There are some for sale, though, if you keep your eyes open.
I would suggest:
- Porsche Post (official club magazine, subs are about 50 quid a year)
- 911&Porsche World classifieds
- PistonHeads classifieds - there was a RHD in black for sale in the last six months
- www.mcpmotorsport.co.uk
- And I think auto classica in knaresborough have one or two. Maybe google it.
- Our 'Enry... or maybe not!
- Paragon and camtune have a good choice of 911s, maybe worth a look if going down the 993 route.
ultra violent said: Dom, i'd kick your ass in my RS eating T2.
hmmm round any UK circuit ending in park ie Cadwell, Oulton, Donnington & I really think not, but then again if it is against Dom in the RS I would have to put my money on the Turbo as he will be enjoying himself scaring badgers too much
I'm gunna try & grab a drive in the RS if it makes it to Oulton under new ownership, although I will have to pay if I bend it, which might make any gin palace turbo chasing antics slightly moderated coz it will take me 3000 yrs to pay that off
PS I reckon the RSPCA will probabally try and ban Dom from driving if he does get his Ultima, for the sake of our wildlife
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