just drove a 997s
just drove a 997s
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kleonard

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767 posts

253 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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The 997 s is a great car but do any of u agree it feels slow...i know its not slow and when u look at the speedo it certainly isnt slow, but when your driving it feels a bit dead... like it needs 70 bhp more... its disappointing to drive for this.. a m3 feals faster.... what u think....??

abarber

1,711 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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Guess it depends what you're used to. Have driven cars that are < 9 seconds to 100 and they feel slow if you're used to bikes. They aren't though.. Whatever level of performance you have, you'll get used to it. I presume you don't have an Arosa 1.0 Tip?

abarber

1,711 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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GT2 or TT from your profile. Well...

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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Sports Exhaust might be all it needs. Did the job on the 996

loach

3,357 posts

245 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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kleonard said:
The 997 s is a great car but do any of u agree it feels slow...i know its not slow and when u look at the speedo it certainly isnt slow, but when your driving it feels a bit dead... like it needs 70 bhp more... its disappointing to drive for this.. a m3 feals faster.... what u think....??


Funnily enough, you might prefer the normal 997 on 18s. It isn't as quick as an S, but it feels a bit more sprightly somehow...maybe a little less brutish. I'm a bit surprised that you felt it was slower than an M3. That may be because the 997 S feels so 'planted' and solid. Were you driving a manual car... * puts on broken record*

kleonard

Original Poster:

767 posts

253 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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car is a manual ... i think the car is so underpowered...it fealt like driving a clio 172... think its because the car is well balanced.... but still absolutely gutless.. boring to drive...

16610LV

311 posts

244 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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kleonard said:
car is a manual ... i think the car is so underpowered...it fealt like driving a clio 172... think its because the car is well balanced.... but still absolutely gutless.. boring to drive...

...I think the problem is that with the 997, Porsche basically created (for the US market primarily) a Merc SL that could actually handle like a Porsche and had Porsche steering feel. It did lose a bit more 'soul'. My '99 996 feels 'raw' in comparison (never thought I'd say that!). The 19" wheels on the 997 probably don't help the lack of 'get up and go' either.

However, I'd still get a 997 GT3 if I had the dosh!

911addict

394 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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Maybe you need an old skool 911, like 993 or earlier!

Adam B

29,717 posts

283 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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maybe you need to swap your GT2 with my Polo 1.2S for a few months and then rive a 997S again

its all relative

loach

3,357 posts

245 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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kleonard said:
car is a manual ... i think the car is so underpowered...it fealt like driving a clio 172... think its because the car is well balanced.... but still absolutely gutless.. boring to drive...



Now that's just silly. Boring and gutless in relation to what? The Pamplona Run?


That's the trolls fed, then


Edit. Oh. Relative to a GT2, you mean. OOops. Ummm....point taken.

But then, I wouldn't be surprised to hear a 993 GT2 owner describe your 996 GT2 as a bit of a disappointment, and as a bit of hype over substance. Not that it is of course, but as was pointed out above - everything's relative.

>> Edited by loach on Tuesday 23 May 11:07

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

261 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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Did the car have sport chrono, makes a surprising difference.

430 Spider

217 posts

251 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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I thought the 997S felt a bit underpowered, but quick enough on the twisties.

GT3 is probably the answer.

sammy

194 posts

246 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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kleonard said:
The 997 s is a great car but do any of u agree it feels slow...i know its not slow and when u look at the speedo it certainly isnt slow, but when your driving it feels a bit dead... like it needs 70 bhp more... its disappointing to drive for this.. a m3 feals faster.... what u think....??
Bet it was a PASM equipped car. They do feel a bit innert (I had one). Tried one with Sports Suspension (which also gives you slippy dif.) and Sports Exhaust and it was a different animal. Still a wee bit asthmatic against a GT2 on a dual carriageway I guess, although the one you tried must have been off colour if an M3 felt faster.

kleonard

Original Poster:

767 posts

253 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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just my opinion... everyone that has driven the car thinks it feals slow..i no its not slow but there is no sensation of speed... my old gt3 mk1 is defo quicker... maybe needs more miles to rev better.... its a lovely car al the same.... needs more power....

rumplestiltskin

1,084 posts

251 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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I drove a 997C4S which I felt was a little lacking in power recently. Wasn't slow but didn't feel that fast.

Why would an M3 be any slower anyway ? Similar power & weight to a 997 C2S.

When I had a 996 C2 I had an M3 as a loan car & I thought that was a little faster than the C2, so I would anticipate the M3 is about similar in performance to a 997 C2.

R.

bite-me

524 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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kleonard said:
The 997 s is a great car but do any of u agree it feels slow...i know its not slow and when u look at the speedo it certainly isnt slow, but when your driving it feels a bit dead... like it needs 70 bhp more... its disappointing to drive for this.. a m3 feals faster.... what u think....??


Was this the demo drive arranged by Porsche Centre Reading

if So I did as well, 997 c2 cab

unfort on Sunday it lashed down so could not get the top down.

closest I'll ever get to driving/owning £72k's worth of car

jjr1

3,041 posts

289 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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-20mm car feels faster and is more alert. Add a Tubi and it feels much faster than an M3. In fact until the last few revs it feels as fast as a GT3 MK II

sammy

194 posts

246 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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jjr1 said:
-20mm car feels faster and is more alert. Add a Tubi and it feels much faster than an M3. In fact until the last few revs it feels as fast as a GT3 MK II
Yep. Felt very different to my PASM car.

w1how

1,507 posts

244 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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Having owned an M3 SMG and now owning a 997 carrera S I think the carrera s does not feel as fast as an M3,but I would love to drag race one against the other in a straight line over a mile or two just to find out.Love the 997s and think it has enough power though-if you want more buy the 997tt!The M3 SMG is a wonderful car too and for the money a real bargain

w1how

1,507 posts

244 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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kleonard said:
just my opinion... everyone that has driven the car thinks it feals slow..i no its not slow but there is no sensation of speed... my old gt3 mk1 is defo quicker... maybe needs more miles to rev better.... its a lovely car al the same.... needs more power....


Believe me there is a feeling of speed when you get it up to around 170-the tyre roar and road noise alone is deafening.