993 RS vs 996 GT3
993 RS vs 996 GT3
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GT2

Original Poster:

46 posts

245 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Just wondering what you guys think and why?

I like the look of the 993.
I have driven a 996 GT3 and I love the handling!

Anyone have driven both cars and what are the differences in handling and power output, etc?

Thanks.

domster

8,431 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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You need to drive them both.

The 993RS feels 'older' but feels more 'classic' because of it.

They are like Marmite and Vegemite. Very similar but you'll prefer one or the other.

Don't ask the forum; the RS owners will say the RS is better and the GT3 owners will say the GT3 is better, LOL

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Have driven both and as Dom says you can't expect the forum to give an answer.

I made my choice which I'm more than happy with

DanH

12,287 posts

290 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Simple answer : 996 GT3 RS

They are right you won't get useful opinions here

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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MK1 GT3...

GT2

Original Poster:

46 posts

245 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Actually, the 993 RS is just a 993 C2 with less weight? 3.8l "road engine" and 20hp more?

The GT3 "GT1 based engine" is totally different to the 996 C2.

GT3 vs 993RS which is faster? and more challenging?

nervous

24,050 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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GT2 said:


GT3 vs 993RS which is faster?


the red ones are a bit slow, im told.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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trolling post if ever I've seen one...

domster

8,431 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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GT2 said:
Actually, the 993 RS is just a 993 C2 with less weight? 3.8l "road engine" and 20hp more?

The GT3 "GT1 based engine" is totally different to the 996 C2.

GT3 vs 993RS which is faster? and more challenging?


The "GT1 based engine" means that it had a bottom end from an earlier air cooled car. The 993RS is an earlier air cooled car. So work out the advantage for yourself

The GT3 is faster in a straight line but they are pretty evenly matched on track and both challenging cars to drive.

If you have already driven a GT3, you need to drive a 993RS before you post any more questions about whether it is 'challenging' or not. It is too subjective. You may find it challenging, Steve Rance (Porsche racing geezer) may not. DRIVE ONE.

GT2

Original Poster:

46 posts

245 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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domster said:
GT2 said:
Actually, the 993 RS is just a 993 C2 with less weight? 3.8l "road engine" and 20hp more?

The GT3 "GT1 based engine" is totally different to the 996 C2.

GT3 vs 993RS which is faster? and more challenging?


The "GT1 based engine" means that it had a bottom end from an earlier air cooled car. The 993RS is an earlier air cooled car. So work out the advantage for yourself

The GT3 is faster in a straight line but they are pretty evenly matched on track and both challenging cars to drive.

If you have already driven a GT3, you need to drive a 993RS before you post any more questions about whether it is 'challenging' or not. It is too subjective. You may find it challenging, Steve Rance (Porsche racing geezer) may not. DRIVE ONE.



1 more question, which is cheaper to maintain?

Edited by GT2 on Thursday 20th July 11:30

nervous

24,050 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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son, if you have to ask...

bund

2,624 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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DanH said:

Simple answer : 996 GT3 RS

They are right you won't get useful opinions here


I love the the blue/white rs even more than i love the red/white rs. Anyone have any idea how many there were of each in the UK? Seems to be a lot more red/white?

DanH

12,287 posts

290 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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bund said:
DanH said:

Simple answer : 996 GT3 RS

They are right you won't get useful opinions here


I love the the blue/white rs even more than i love the red/white rs. Anyone have any idea how many there were of each in the UK? Seems to be a lot more red/white?


I've been told it was about 70% reds vs 30% blues. Now everyone seems to like the blue though. It's probably because all the PR shots were of a red one, and I think the red photographs better too. Blue you need to see in the flesh.

seandudding

495 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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The Blue is gay.......

bund

2,624 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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DanH said:
bund said:
DanH said:

Simple answer : 996 GT3 RS

They are right you won't get useful opinions here


I love the the blue/white rs even more than i love the red/white rs. Anyone have any idea how many there were of each in the UK? Seems to be a lot more red/white?


I've been told it was about 70% reds vs 30% blues. Now everyone seems to like the blue though. It's probably because all the PR shots were of a red one, and I think the red photographs better too. Blue you need to see in the flesh.


Its your bloody car that always gets me going! I think once im up to speed in my " NEW " 968cs i might be looking for a good blue/white rs. Dan any ideas where i can get a good deal?

clubsport

7,414 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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looking forward to the next trolling post Gt2...

domster

8,431 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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He can't hear you, Paul

clubsport

7,414 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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sorry Dom, I should have used the JOEL, LOCKS KEY!!!!

steve rance

5,453 posts

261 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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The two cars are very different. The 993 has a more road car bias - which I don't think is to it's detriment - has a beautiful balance and is very forgiving. The balance between output and chasis capability is fantastic. Also, because the car is relatively light and the engine doesn't punch out huge BHP it is a relatively cheap car to track. The GT3 is a dummed down race car and I think as such it is a little more compromised because it actually works a lot better with very extreme set ups that many drivers would feel uncomfortable with and that wouldn't be that good on the public road. From a driving perspective the GT3 is a more brutal car especially the MK2 and RS versions but is extremely rewarding. You have to be much more sensitive with throttle and brake imputs than you do in the 993. On the lap, a standard GT3 will be quicker but not night and day quicker and it's performance will be more difficult to unlock. A properly set up GT3 - especially an RS -will be substantially quicker on the lap but not as nice as the 993 to drive home again! Also the relative heavy weight and high output levels of the GT3 makes it more expensive to track. The 997 car will be even more expensive.

Ultimately it comes down to preference. The 993RS was essentially a track ready road car built for the road and the occasional jaunt on the race track. The GT3 was origionally built to win races full stop. Any racing car built with it's engine hanging out behind the rear axle line ain't ever going to be an easy car to drive.

They are both great cars but personally I think that the brilliance of the 993 is it's immidiate accessibility. As such you can enjoy it wheter you are on the road or track. I think that the brilliance of the GT3 is in it's potential. It is a car that has been heavily dummed down for the road and can only really show it's true brilliance on the race track and with a considerably different set up on it than the one it left the factory with.

Steve R




Edited by steve rance on Thursday 20th July 14:39


Edited by steve rance on Thursday 20th July 14:47


Edited by steve rance on Thursday 20th July 14:50

steve rance

5,453 posts

261 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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steve rance said:
The two cars are very different. The 993 has a more road car bias - which I don't think is to it's detriment - has a beautiful balance and is very forgiving. The balance between output and chasis capability is fantastic. Also, because the car is relatively light and the engine doesn't punch out huge BHP it is a relatively cheap car to track. The GT3 is a dummed down race car and I think as such it is a little more compromised because it actually works a lot better with very extreme set ups that many drivers would feel uncomfortable with and that wouldn't be that good on the public road. From a driving perspective the GT3 is a more brutal car especially the MK2 and RS versions but is extremely rewarding. You have to be much more sensitive with throttle and brake imputs than you do in the 993. On the lap, a standard GT3 will be quicker but not night and day quicker and it's performance will be more difficult to unlock. A properly set up GT3 - especially an RS -will be substantially quicker on the lap but not as nice as the 993 to drive home again! Also the relative heavy weight and high output levels of the GT3 makes it more expensive to track. The 997 car will be even more expensive.

Ultimately it comes down to preference. The 993RS was essentially a track ready road car built for the road and the occasional jaunt on the race track. The GT3 was origionally built to win races full stop. Any racing car built with it's engine hanging out behind the rear axle line ain't ever going to be an easy car to drive.

They are both great cars but personally I think that the brilliance of the 993 is it's immidiate accessibility. As such you can enjoy it wheter you are on the road or track. I think that the brilliance of the GT3 is in it's potential. It is a car that has been heavily dummed down for the road and can only really show it's true brilliance on the race track and with a considerably different set up on it than the one it left the factory with.

Steve R




Edited by steve rance on Thursday 20th July 14:39


Edited by steve rance on Thursday 20th July 14:47


Edited by steve rance on Thursday 20th July 14:50


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