997 GT3 - which brakes?
997 GT3 - which brakes?
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atomic

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150 posts

262 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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OK so I need to confirm my spec. Should I go for the ceramic brakes or not?

All comments gladly received.

Thanks

Geneve

4,018 posts

249 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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This was covered very recently. Do a search on PCCBs

There are mixed views, but I did my own research and have decided to spec them.

Pugsey

5,821 posts

244 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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atomic said:
OK so I need to confirm my spec. Should I go for the ceramic brakes or not?

All comments gladly received.

Thanks
From a practical/performance point of view, if you're going to track it - no, if you're not - yes.
From a residuals point of view maybe not. I haven't, and if I do feel I need better brake performance later on, a steel upgrade from one of the recognised specialists will cost me a lot less than speccing PCCBs
IMO.

hog 1

400 posts

253 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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Lots of dicussion about this on american forum 6speedonline with lots of sensible comments and engineering back-up.
IMO - spec PCCB.

Koln-RS

4,127 posts

242 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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I think the latest PCCBs will be an attractive option on the 997 GT3, and could well retain some of their value in the used market.

It's cheaper to spec them and regret it, than to not spec them and regret it. If that makes sense.

steve rance

5,453 posts

261 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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If you are going to track the car, even if it is only a few days per year, i'd have steels

Steve R

TEE

141 posts

297 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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Koln-RS said:
I think the latest PCCBs will be an attractive option on the 997 GT3, and could well retain some of their value in the used market.

It's cheaper to spec them and regret it, than to not spec them and regret it. If that makes sense.


it will cost you €12,000 to change them for steel... it costs €13,500 to add them later...

Geneve

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249 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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TEE said:
Koln-RS said:
I think the latest PCCBs will be an attractive option on the 997 GT3, and could well retain some of their value in the used market.

It's cheaper to spec them and regret it, than to not spec them and regret it. If that makes sense.


it will cost you €12,000 to change them for steel... it costs €13,500 to add them later...


I think those figures are wrong.

In the UK they are a £5800 option. A set of steels is what? £2k+?

Surely, to add PCCBs to a car supplied with steel brakes would be a lot more.

atomic

Original Poster:

150 posts

262 months

Saturday 26th August 2006
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Thanks for all the advice. It's going to be mainly road use so I went for PCCB.

997gt3

3,139 posts

244 months

Saturday 26th August 2006
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Atomic,
As you've now specced your car, i'm interested in what other goodies you went for - colour, PCM, coloured wheels etc.??

tripeface

54 posts

242 months

Saturday 26th August 2006
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If you need to seek advice on this I would say NO. Its like asking what size Rocket do I need to go to the moon can somone Help?.if YOU don`t Know don`t GO.

atomic

Original Poster:

150 posts

262 months

Sunday 27th August 2006
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Spec is

Atlas Grey
PCCB
Yellow Seat Belts
Interior in Natural Dark Grey Leather
Lightweight bucket seats
Sound Package Plus
Mats
Factory Collection

997gt3

3,139 posts

244 months

Sunday 27th August 2006
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Cheers Atomic, i've sent you an email btw.

TEE

141 posts

297 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Geneve said:
TEE said:
Koln-RS said:
I think the latest PCCBs will be an attractive option on the 997 GT3, and could well retain some of their value in the used market.

It's cheaper to spec them and regret it, than to not spec them and regret it. If that makes sense.


it will cost you €12,000 to change them for steel... it costs €13,500 to add them later...


I think those figures are wrong.

In the UK they are a £5800 option. A set of steels is what? £2k+?

Surely, to add PCCBs to a car supplied with steel brakes would be a lot more.


Better check your facts otherwise you could have an expensive surprise...

C2DTG

3,019 posts

243 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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PCCB's are a wonderful thing, but at a cost of £3500 per corner for replacement I suspect a lot of furute buyers will be put off at having them spec'd

Saw a C4S for sale recently. Looked fantastic in Atlas grey (superb colour btw)with PCCB's.

Irrespective of the spec, I wouldn't touch it because of the brake question!

Geneve

4,018 posts

249 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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C2DTG said:
PCCB's are a wonderful thing, but at a cost of £3500 per corner for replacement I suspect a lot of furute buyers will be put off at having them spec'd

Saw a C4S for sale recently. Looked fantastic in Atlas grey (superb colour btw)with PCCB's.

Irrespective of the spec, I wouldn't touch it because of the brake question!


The C4S would have had earlier generation PCCBs. Even so, there isn't a huge risk.

If the brakes are as good, and last as long, as claimed then you would have enjoyed the benefits of PCCBs.

If not, then you may have a justified warranty claim. Or, failing that, if you don't want to fork out for new carbon ceramic brakes, you just fit new steel brakes. That's the extent of the risk.

prostang

127 posts

241 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Just paid deposit today for may delivery, not had a porsche before hope its a good move, what should i spec for future resale value

adam b

29,725 posts

284 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Koln-RS said:
I think the latest PCCBs will be an attractive option on the 997 GT3, and could well retain some of their value in the used market.


think you are right but this is a big negative against PCBB IMO, will retain 1k max of value so you are looking at £4800 or 83% depreciation.

I like atomic's spec and think the grey/yellow contrast you have specced inside and out will look great

but I would never spec PCCBs, as a second hand buyer I would pay little or no premium for them and would get them checked by a specialist thoroughly and if any hint of a problem would try to negotiate 2k off for steel replacement

think nav module will be more looked for on GT3 specs (as with all other 997's)

997gt3

3,139 posts

244 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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adam b said:
I think nav module will be more looked for on GT3 specs (as with all other 997's)

I was going to go for Nav but.....

1)I'll be doing 3000 miles per year and will know where i'm going when i'm out - car shows, drives round local area etc;

2) Update CD's cost approx £400 from OPC;

3) I'm intending keeping the car at least 5 years maybe up to 10 years - who the feck will be bothered about sat nav in 5 to 10 years everyone will have a tom-tom or similar or be able to purchase one for £50?!;

4) Costs £1921.

Geneve

4,018 posts

249 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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997gt3 said:
adam b said:
I think nav module will be more looked for on GT3 specs (as with all other 997's)

I was going to go for Nav but.....

1)I'll be doing 3000 miles per year and will know where i'm going when i'm out - car shows, drives round local area etc;

2) Update CD's cost approx £400 from OPC;

3) I'm intending keeping the car at least 5 years maybe up to 10 years - who the feck will be bothered about sat nav in 5 to 10 years everyone will have a tom-tom or similar or be able to purchase one for £50?!;

4) Costs £1921.


Fair comment. But discs don't cost £400. That was for the upgrade and new disc on the original 987/997s.

Still, I think the £2k for the nav might be better spent on the PCCBs. It is a GT3 afterall, not a gin palace.

Edited by Geneve on Tuesday 5th September 13:59